The Great Debate - Is Drifting motorsport? - Page 4

nihil · 8 Jul 2006, 12:26 (Ref:1650820)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

It's not a fair representation but it's something that the sport will need to address somehow

It'll take time... I suppose drag racing is the case history to study in this respect. The formation of the NHRA, in the States, moved drag racing from outlaw status to legitimate sport. I'm not sure if there's any over-arching body governing Drift events yet. Maybe someone can elucidate that further...

**Dani Filth** · 8 Jul 2006, 19:38 (Ref:1650967)

there are FIA sanctioned drag racing championships

regarding drifting .. i hate "drifting"(and "drag racing").. but not the sport part of it .. after all .. i like Tractor Pulling

nihil · 8 Jul 2006, 20:10 (Ref:1650977)

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

there are FIA sanctioned drag racing championships

I'm sure there are... I'm just speculating as to what kind of organisation/s might develop to promote drifting as a legitimate sport. Is it even desirable to create large scale bodies to 'police' an activity still in the early stages of its life?

BigDaddy · 8 Jul 2006, 23:55 (Ref:1651076)

Drifting in Australia is sanctioned by both the AASA and CAMS. CAMS is the FIA affiliate in Australia so I guess it must be some sort of motor racing.

Al Weyman · 9 Jul 2006, 07:14 (Ref:1651149)

It might be some form of motorsport but motor racing, never!

nihil · 9 Jul 2006, 12:35 (Ref:1651279)

Not sure whether you're looking over the edge or digging a deeper foxhole with that comment!

Al Weyman · 9 Jul 2006, 12:45 (Ref:1651283)

Motor racing is surely defined as the one who goes from A to B the fastest is the winner be that against the clock or directly on the track not how many times he lights up or smokes his tyres on the way. I will concede by definition it can be construed as motorsport however.

nihil · 9 Jul 2006, 13:00 (Ref:1651286)

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Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Motor racing is surely defined as the one who goes from A to B the fastest is the winner be that against the clock or directly on the track not how many times he lights up or smokes his tyres on the way. I will concede by definition it can be construed as motorsport however.

Yeah, I see what you mean (though I think while single car runs fit your definition, the pursuit element of dual runs makes the whole argument a bit blurry again, since to keep up or overtake from an inferior start position is to prove yourself faster)

gttouring · 9 Jul 2006, 14:40 (Ref:1651317)

drfiting is a motor event- but SPORT? Racing? NAY!
it is akin to figure skating as a "sport."
neat to watch but not real way to quantify excllence...

The STIG · 9 Jul 2006, 14:51 (Ref:1651324)

I'm with GTTouring on this one. It's a Motor Competition but not a sport. Figure skating is also a performance competition but not really a sport as such.

**silver bullet** · 9 Jul 2006, 15:05 (Ref:1651326)

It all depends how you define the word sport. I know some people who say there are only three sports, hunting, shooting and fishing, everything else are just games and hobbies.
I go with the Concise Oxfords definition :- Sport, A game or competitive activity

Baritone2400 · 9 Jul 2006, 15:41 (Ref:1651359)

really to me its like glorifed burnouts but since i tried it in my freinds 240 it actually does reqire some skill so yes it is motorsport

nihil · 9 Jul 2006, 20:20 (Ref:1651679)

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Originally Posted by gttouring

drfiting is a motor event- but SPORT? Racing? NAY!
it is akin to figure skating as a "sport."
neat to watch but not real way to quantify excllence...

Whatever...

Really, how many times are you geezers going to drag that one out?

I think the debate has moved on.

Slippy Diff · 9 Jul 2006, 20:54 (Ref:1651722)

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Originally Posted by nihil

Whatever...

Really, how many times are you geezers going to drag that one out?

I think the debate has moved on.

I'd guess that you have more than a passing interest in 'drifting', competitor or organiser or fan?

Slippy Diff · 9 Jul 2006, 20:58 (Ref:1651726)

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Originally Posted by silver bullet

So now your going to say that boxing is'nt a sport.

Err, yeah, by my definition. It's fine if one of the guys beats the living **** out of his opponent and knocks him out, but if it has to be decided by the judges it's all about who put on the best show.

Slippy Diff · 9 Jul 2006, 21:00 (Ref:1651729)

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Originally Posted by V8_TURBO

Anyway I went to a drift connection in Morrisons car park.

I'm still wiping the tea of my monitor screen. Here lies the problem. Drifting will never be taken seriously whilst it is still linked to the baseball cap brigade.

The STIG · 9 Jul 2006, 21:30 (Ref:1651746)

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Originally Posted by Slippy Diff

Here lies the problem. Drifting will never be taken seriously whilst it is still linked to the baseball cap brigade.

Thus another Stig Point (tm) is inadvertantly seconded...

There's no easy way around that though

Al Weyman · 9 Jul 2006, 21:37 (Ref:1651750)

Ice dancing I would say is a sport, a ruddy tough one as well. I had this woman who used to work for me was a top exponent of the sport and one tough lady and the injuries she sustained was horrendus, takes a lot more guts than driving a racing car around with all the protective gear IMHO.

Slippy Diff · 9 Jul 2006, 22:29 (Ref:1651786)

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Originally Posted by The STIG

Thus another Stig Point (tm) is inadvertantly seconded...

Great minds. Well, mine is anyway....

BigDaddy · 9 Jul 2006, 23:28 (Ref:1651803)

New Hoon laws in Australia give the police the power to impound cars. This will hopefully take drifting out of the industrial parks and onto the race tracks, especially if these people think they are going to lose their car. The drifters that compete on the track would never dream of doing it on the public streets, and are working hard to make drifting succeed.

Slippy Diff · 9 Jul 2006, 23:46 (Ref:1651807)

Cool

Not cool

**silver bullet** · 9 Jul 2006, 23:51 (Ref:1651808)

OK so drifting is cool, baseball hats arn't cool.

**silver bullet** · 9 Jul 2006, 23:57 (Ref:1651810)

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Originally Posted by BigDaddy

New Hoon laws in Australia give the police the power to impound cars. This will hopefully take drifting out of the industrial parks and onto the race tracks, especially if these people think they are going to lose their car. The drifters that compete on the track would never dream of doing it on the public streets, and are working hard to make drifting succeed.

The sooner this happens the better. The distinction needs to be made between competitive drifting as a sport and illegal cruises.

BigDaddy · 10 Jul 2006, 00:53 (Ref:1651824)

Whilst it takes place on the streets in its illegal forms it will never be recognised as a sport, just as a bunch of young hoons, so I guess we can blame the ********s that do it on the streets as to why so many people argue that it is not a sport.

EvilPumpkin · 10 Jul 2006, 07:58 (Ref:1651960)

Ok so what about illegal street racing then? Does that mean that circuit racing is bad because people also race illegally on the roads?

Oh and I don't think it's baseball caps in general that are bad - just anything Burberry. Does anyone else remember when Burberry was posh? Sorry, that's totally off topic - I'll start a thread for that in PF!

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