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Old 26 May 2013, 12:50 (Ref:3253381)   #91
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I have this opinion because a think Nissan will go to LMP 1 in a near future and do a similar situation like Toyota and Oreca, but this is just my opinion, not based in facts
Toyota haven't given Oreca a car though.
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Old 26 May 2013, 15:54 (Ref:3253498)   #92
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My opinion is that Rebellion possible go with HPD, Lola car will not race next year and Strakka will leave WEC.
That's so random! That would be guessing correctly on several accounts next year. That's as obscure as me saying Townsend Bell will start his own Le Mans race team and Michael Schumacher and Jacques Villeneuve will be piloting the GreenGT.

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Toyota haven't given Oreca a car though.
I think what he means is the relationship between Hugues de Chaunac (Oreca boss) and Toyota.
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Old 26 May 2013, 17:09 (Ref:3253528)   #93
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Or that.
I was serious:

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The bulging bodywork with the inset wheels reminded journalists of a Pig with its relatively small feet and thus, the idea of the Pink Pig was born. Porsche designed the Pink livery with the German names for various cuts of beef.
John Brooks tells me, “all the departments in Porsche were going to run a 917 in the 1971 race and a late budgetary issue meant that one of the two lost out………the loser got to choose the colour scheme and had their revenge.the livery was designed by one of the teams”.
Legend has it, sponsor Martini, were not impressed and their logo didn’t appear on the car.

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Old 26 May 2013, 21:33 (Ref:3253681)   #94
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I was under the impression that they didn't have any sponsorship at all, and therefore they choose the pig-livery. Not that there were no sponsornames on the car because they found the car pig-ugly.
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I was under the impression that they didn't have any sponsorship at all, and therefore they choose the pig-livery. Not that there were no sponsornames on the car because they found the car pig-ugly.

I seem to remember reading the full Pink Pig story in Motor Sport a while back, and having quickly checked in Norbert Singer's book (24:16, well worth a read) I think the principle was that the got the French aerodynamicists at SERA to come up with a body kit for the 917 (the 917-20) it ended up being painted with the butcher's cut livery due to a level of disparagement about what the car looked like.

Now falling back on memory, I think there was a degree of controversy over how fast it was and what impact the aero mods had on certain parts, which has led to a debate over what it should have been able to achieve, perhaps reinforcing the reputation of the car, which the livery established.

If I can be organised enough I might be persuaded to wear my Pink Pig appropriate t-shirt, which I think a couple of you have seen, to the Saturday morning meet for a quick comparison to see whether the 917 was accurately labelled...
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Old 28 May 2013, 02:01 (Ref:3254307)   #96
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I seem to remember reading the full Pink Pig story in Motor Sport a while back, and having quickly checked in Norbert Singer's book (24:16, well worth a read) I think the principle was that the got the French aerodynamicists at SERA to come up with a body kit for the 917 (the 917-20) it ended up being painted with the butcher's cut livery due to a level of disparagement about what the car looked like.

Now falling back on memory, I think there was a degree of controversy over how fast it was and what impact the aero mods had on certain parts, which has led to a debate over what it should have been able to achieve, perhaps reinforcing the reputation of the car, which the livery established.

If I can be organised enough I might be persuaded to wear my Pink Pig appropriate t-shirt, which I think a couple of you have seen, to the Saturday morning meet for a quick comparison to see whether the 917 was accurately labelled...
Yes, please!
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Old 28 May 2013, 09:19 (Ref:3254403)   #97
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From a press release from Porsche back in 2009.http://www.rahulnair.net/blog/2009/0...-zuffenhausen/
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Old 28 May 2013, 20:42 (Ref:3254705)   #98
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Shall we title this thread "The Greatness of The Pig"?
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well it certainly isn't about the perrinn anymore..
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Old 29 May 2013, 01:41 (Ref:3254794)   #100
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well it certainly isn't about the perrinn anymore..
Maybe they should change the name to Peccary LMP1 then this thread would be right on!

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Old 12 Jun 2013, 08:38 (Ref:3261331)   #101
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F1 engines in Endurance?!?!?!?
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Old 15 Jun 2013, 01:26 (Ref:3262883)   #102
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This has nothing to do with the Perrinn specifically but F1 engines in LMP1 is an idea that has been kicking around for a little while now by several motorsports journalist. Yet many of the "experts" on here continue to dismiss the idea. I don't think you'll see one in a Perrinn unless it's factory backed and supported. The engines would be far too expensive and complex for privateers.
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Old 15 Jun 2013, 12:04 (Ref:3263004)   #103
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The 2014 F1 power units are fully legal in LMP1, this was a deliberate move by the ACO/FIA. However does that mean anyone will use one? Probably not as they are very expensive.
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The 2014 F1 power units are fully legal in LMP1, this was a deliberate move by the ACO/FIA. However does that mean anyone will use one? Probably not as they are very expensive.
Wasn't the mooted cost of a F1 engine deal at about 15-17 million Euro per season? That would be completely prohibitive to anyone but a factory team to actually run a F1 engine.
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Old 16 Jun 2013, 10:11 (Ref:3263352)   #105
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IMO it will be a F1 derivated engine not a f1 engine, with much cheaper components. The materials could be much cheaper, for example, the resistance engines doesn't need ultraexpensive pneumathic valves or something like a ultracompact f1 gearbox.

It will be expensive but not that expensive.
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