[Official] 2010 Round 10 - British Grand Prix

[mattt]

Well heres the simple facts of the matter, Alonso attempts to pass Kubica, Kubica defends, Alonso cuts the corner, Alonso gains a place, Team told to give place back, Alonso refuses, Alonso gets penalty.


The thing is it doesn't matter why he cut the track he still cut it and gained an advantage.

[Fox89]

Originally Posted by SSbaby

Your assumption is based on what exactly?

If all the facts were considered, then why was the symptom addressed and not the cause?

Because it is entirely possible that the stewards, having considered all the information, disagreed with your and Ferrari's point of view and felt Alonso had gained the position unfairly.

And my assumption is based on the fact that we have professionals in this sport who are, presumably, doing their jobs more or less as they should be done. As well as an ex-driver to assist. Given that they are professionals, it is perfectly reasonable to assume they took all the facts available to them into consideration when making a judgement.

Or do you think the stewards are just 12 year olds pulling penalties out of a hat?

[Super Hans]

Originally Posted by SSbaby

I really don't care who it is... as long as they have commonsense (yes, that word again).

Common sense is two words.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by SSbaby

I really don't care who it is... as long as they have commonsense (yes, that word again).

Originally Posted by Super Hans

Common sense is two words.

There's no need to split hairs, .

[Born Racer]

Originally Posted by aridshelter

Going by how fast Alonso was zooming off, and how much time he was making up over Kubica after the pass, for what would have been an obvious penalty (in my mind) if he didn't give the place back - my immediate assumption was that Aonso was tryng to build a big enough gap that he could sereve the penalty, and still rejoin ahead of RK's Renault...

Which would have proved his point about Valencia quite nicely, had the safety car not come out at exactly the wrong moment....


That was my reading of events - so I'm not surprised he was fuming...

Welcome to Ten-Tenths, aridshelter.

That argument doesn't hold up if, when he realised he was likely to get a penalty, he was closer to Kubica on track-time than he was far enough away that the time lost taking a penalty would be even more than to slow down.

How far did he ever get away from Kubica?

[aridshelter]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

Welcome to Ten-Tenths, aridshelter.

That argument doesn't hold up if, when he realised he was likely to get a penalty, he was closer to Kubica on track-time than he was far enough away that the time lost taking a penalty would be even more than to slow down.

How far did he ever get away from Kubica?

Thanks!

He was lapping about a second and a half quicker than Kubica after he passed him, so I imediately felt he was going for it and hoping the stewards would take long enough (aided by his team petitioning them) for him to prove the point - If we go for 20 seconds lost for a drive through, he could make that up if the decision took 14 laps...

I've had a dig about to find the timings (here) and it actually looks like the difference is due to the Renault lapling slower (presumably due to its problem), rather than Nando stepping on it - which I thought as I watched it - this certainly gives more credence to the 'my idea is stupid' theroy...