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I'm just hoping my wind tunnel futures don't crash . I need this car to be a failure
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They are practically gone now really, looks like a phased withdrawal. Yer man Goshn (sp?) hates motorsport and tends to cut this wherever he goes. Kubica must be pretty cheesed off but then he must have had soem inkling that this could happen.
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With regard to teams leaving F1: It could by that any number of teams could leave F1 in the next couple of years, but I think that they are now more likely to be replaced by another independent team. There are certainly quite a few waiting in the wings. |
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No! like BE only how much can I add to my pile.
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But who cares how much he gets out of it as long as he his one of the few that wants to put something in!
Where are Petrobras,ING,RBS and heaven knows how many other sponsors that have decided that F1 just doesn't do it for them any more? Is it that they no longer wish to be associated with 'Excess'? |
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One more to the list of millionaires that would change F1, at least he's putting something in ! As we all know, F1 before Virgin and F1 after Virgin can not be the same... it's changed forever.
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Agree whole heartedly, F1 and motor racing changed the day Chunky put Gold Leaf on a racing car, though of course it remained Team Lotus and 'racing', but then Ecclestone became a louder voice along with Max and destroyed F1 and 'racing' has near ceased for the most part, simply the sponsor has imposed his 'will' on the team, though not quite yet at Williams, 'Crashgate' should be a black flag to all who love this sport. I would like to see the return to the time when JYS, Jimmy, Hill, Bruce and the others wore their overalls with Dunlop and other sponsors displayed but enough room for the BRDC badge as well, after all there was enough space on Button's overall's last year for the badge even with 'Virgin' on them.
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Does Beardy Branson understand F1? No.
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In the case of Petronas and Petrobras, they wanted to use F1 to develop fuels. Without a manufacturer deal, you can't do that, hence the lack of their presence. |
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More evidence to suggest Branson doesn't understand F1
But then again, this is originally from the Daily Star... |
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hmmm......sounds more like he's having a bit of a larf. They should have some stunning grid girls though!
Maybe he doesn't understand too much about the ins and outs of a race weekend, but to be fair to him, neither did Flav. |
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[QUOTE=Fox89;2600732]Is there any reason why it shouldn't work with Formula cars?
Their "CFD only" story is for marketing...they DO actually go into a windtunnel...and use windtunnel testing with cfd combined... |
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Most other teams do the combination of the two, however. Wind tunnels, building, hiring, and running, are an expensive business, and one that if you can do without, may give you an advantage in the years to come. |
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There's a genuine blog-type article by Joe Saward here.
It's quite angry and serious, based on his recent travel misfortunes, but there's a moral at the end that has relevance here. In any case here to read properly written and thoughtful English. |
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So McLaren are a team that you can trust?
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Hmmm so yes ethical is great but he wanted to install Danica Patrick because she was a looker!! That isn't necessarily the most ethical motivation for hiring a driver more just a poor decision. Fair play to Danica for turning down the oportunity. Frankly the more I hear from Branson about his F1 plans, the less I like him. He sounds arrogant to me, thinks he can change the world when clearly he can't. I admire his enthusiasm for building things but I'm tired of his big talk about how he's going to do this and that. I would imagine that while Brawn were thankful for his assistance last year, they probably couldn't wait to get rid of him and they certainly didn't need him. To me the way Branson does business may be ecologically sound but I don't think he pays to much attention to anything else. I suspect that over the coming season(s) he may well realise that F1 is a very complicated game that can't be won by money and rhetoric alone. Computer says no! |
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Sorry to go slightly off topic but I totally agree with the blog. I remember being at a service area a few years ago when the Stobart Motorsport lorry pulled in along with some others. Within 5 minutes the driver was out and washing the entire truck (using the on-board plumbed cleaning brush) whilst everyone else has dissappeared. Brand awareness at its best I thought.
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[QUOTE=Marbot;2603359]That's not what they are saying.
but what they do... do not believe that serious cfd is cheap... |
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Branson tries to ensure that staff are treated fairly in bad times and good. He tries to make sure that while his businesses make money the customer gets an improved deal from Virgin over the status quo and often shakes up the market so his competitors have to improve too, Virgin companies do not abuse their market position. Many Virgin companies are started because RB sees an opportunity to do something worthwhile while making his profit. Does any of this apply to Bernie???? RB takes risks and launches businesses that might and sometimes do fail but unless you are lucky enough to start a google or a Microsoft that is how a fortune is made. Low risk businesses generate small returns. And no he is not perfect but then who is, certainly not the poison dwarf. |
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