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Old 26 Jan 2010, 21:00 (Ref:2619981)   #16
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Round 1 of 13 of the 1989 Esso RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Good Friday March 24 1989 over 20 laps on the x.xxx miles/x.xxx kms Oulton Park circuit.
Weather seemed to be sunny but cold.
Rolling start mandatory for 1989.
Grid formation: 2-2-2-etc.

Pos.Cl.#DriverTeam/sponsorCat.CarGrid.TimeFastest lapLapsTimeNotes
1.1.21Robb GravettTrakstar/Cartel + NEC + ShellAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth2.1m40.36201m40.6234:00.78FL
2.2.7Tim HarveyRouse/Labatt'sAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth41m40.9420 34:37.85 
3.3.2Jerry MahonyDowson/Arquati + Evans HalshawAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth81m41.8920 34:46.73 
4.4.4Mike NewmanGoode/ListerineAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth71m41.7320 34:48.03 
5.5.5Sean WalkerGoode/FAI + Moss SecurityAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth111m42.1620 34:50.34 
6.1.32James WeaverProdrive/BMW Finance + MobilBBMW M3 Evolution131m43.19201m43.5735:02.26FL
76.20Mike Smith Trakstar/Cartel + NEC + ShellAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth121m42.9720 35m16.65 
8715Chris HodgettsBrooklyn/ShellAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth3.1m40.6320 35m16.88 
9.814Graham HathawayHathaway/Soans + Kenwood HiFiAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth161m44.1120 35m20.01 
102.33Frank SytnerProdrive/BMW Finance + MobilBBMW M3 Evolution151m43.8920 35m26.15 
119??Kaj BornebuschBornbusch Racing?AFord Sierra RS500201m47.1620 35m35.26
123.43Godfrey HallMaguire/Godfrey Hall BMWBBMW M3 Evolution171m45.0619   
131017Mike O'BrienTerry Drury RacingAFord Sierra RS500181m45.9319  
144.45?John LlewellynBRRBBMW M3 Evolution221m47.8619   
151.56John ClelandDave Cook/VDS + MobilCVauxhall Astra GTE 16V241m48.12191m49.82 FL
162.53Mike JordanEurotechCPeugeot 309 GTI291m54.0818   
175.30?James KayeAlan Minshaw/Demon TweeksBBMW M3 Evolution211m47.3318   
181.77Geoff Kimber-SmithFive Star RacingDToyota Corolla AE86322m06.6217   
192.85Tony DolleyTony DolleyDToyota Corolla AE82312m00.4316  
DNFDNF70Phil DowsettRay Selley/AJG TransportDToyota Corolla AE82271m51.95151m50.73 Drive peg failure (possibly classified as a finisher in 20th?)FL
NCF 6Laurence BristowRouse/Labatt'sAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth51m41.2017?  running, but not classified?
NCF 37Nettan LindgrenLindgrenBBMW M3 Evolution231m43.1017?  running, but not classified?
DNF 10Guy EdwardsRouse/KaliberAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth6.1m41.6717  transmission
DNF 25Gerrit van KouwenJQF/Fina UnleadedAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth91m41.9917  turbo pipe
DNF 55John MorrisListers of CoventryCVW Golf GTi 16v261m50.6915  engine
DNFDNF35Ian ForrestIan Forrest-Novafone + DrambuieBBMW M3 Evolution251m48.6213  gear linkage
DNFDNF1Andy RouseRouse/KaliberAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth1.1m38.9410  Broken steering rack
DNFDNF44?John ClarkJohn Maguire RacingBBMW M3 Evolution191m46.3710  Accident
DNFDNF28Karl JonesAsquith-DuckhamsAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth141m43.5810  Accident?
DNFDNF18Robin DonovanTDR/Blue HawkAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth301m54.268  Engine
DNFDNF50Alan MinshawAlan Minshaw/Demon TweeksCVW Golf GTi 16v281m52.598  Driveshaft
DNFDNF4Graham GoodeGoode/ListerineAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth101m42.031  Accident?
DNQDNQ16David PinkneyTDR/Warrenty HoldingsAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth     Too slow
DNADNA19Dave BrodieBBR/AtariAFord Sierra RS500 Cosworth     Flu

The fortunes of both Pinkney and Brodie was reported in the round 2 report, telling of Pinkney and the Drury team unable to get the car to run properly thus not qualifying.
The top-6 grid positions taken from a now deleted picture in the TNF RS500 thread, but had Rouse and Gravett on the front row, Hodgetts and one Labatt's car on the second, with the second Labatt's car on the inside of Edwards on the third.
The team/sponsor section taken from later Autosport reports.
Interested to know who Ray Selley is as the team of Phil Dowsett for 1989.

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Added in the rest of the result as I have it- it does include a couple of mysteries- I've got Dowsett classified as a finisher in 20th, and Bristow and Lindgren not classified, although running and apparently having covered more laps than Dowsett- Can anyone confirm whether I've got the number of laps wrong for these, or whether there's another reason?
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Old 26 Jan 2010, 21:03 (Ref:2619985)   #17
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Ah yes, the infamous meeting where Dave Brodie, intervied by Steve Rider as part of the regular Grandstand delayed coverage referred to all of his competitors with the exception of Andy Rouse as 'turkeys'!!

He then went onto to use illegal fuel to back up that comment.....

Shame as I was quite excited by all the hulabaloo, Brodie's return to form and his showbiz style outburst!

The Dowsett car was IIRC pretty much self run and he struggled for budget all the way through. Your news snippet about the Smith & Latimer backing along with KA's post about the possible 'Rayscar' link up were both vital in getting Phil through the season i'd guess?
There's even a mentioning of the Dowsett car missing a late season race due to being prepared for Macau, although I can't remember Dowsett himself racing in the then Portugese colony.

Have to look up that YouTube clip of Brodie, for a transcript.

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Hope you don't mind me jumping in with some info from the BSP round!

I got a copy of the official qualifying times. Interestingly Alan Minshaw took two cars to Birmingham, his no. 30 BMW M3 car which he attempted to qualify and also he brought his no. 50 VW Golf GTi but it was never ran.

Graham Hathway and Robin Donovan arrived in Birmingham with their own Ford Sierra RS500s but never took part in the qualifying sessions.

Where is the 1990 BTCC thread so I can contribute there?
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Round 4 of 13 of the 1989 Esso British Touring Car Championship held on Sunday May 7th 1989 over 1 hour of the 3.149 kms Donington Park National Circuit.

Grid consisting of the first five qualifiers in each class and that a class can only make up 40 % of the grid. Apparantly the National circuit was open to 30 cars meaning a maximum of 12 class A
from 14 being allowed to start at 4pm.

Pos.Cl.#DriversTeam/sponsorCat.CarGridTimeFastest lapLapsTimeNotes
1. 1. 6 Laurence Bristow/Tiff Needell Rouse/Labatt's A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 6. 1:14,21 1:15,06 47 1:00:11,71
2. 2. 21 Robb Gravett/Jeff Allam Trakstar/Cartel + NEC + Shell A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 1. 1:12,96 1:14,90 47 1:00:14,51
DSQ DSQ 10 Guy Edwards/Win Percy/(Johnny Dumfries) Rouse/Kaliber A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 4. 1:14,02 1:15,37 47 1:00:22,11 Percy not qualified
3. 3. 7 Tim Harvey/David Sears Rouse/Labatt's A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 5. 1:14,18 1:15,34 47 1:00:23,91
4. 4. 5 Sean Walker/Damon Hill Goode/FAI + Moss Security A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 8. 1:14,56 1:15,35 47 1:00:56,23
5. 5. 25 Gerrit van Kouwen/Pierre Diedonné JQF/Fina Unleaded A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 9. 1:14,62 1:15,98 46
6. 1. 33 Frank Sytner/Will Hoy Prodrive/BMW Finance + Mobil B BMW M3 Evolution 15. 1:16,36 1:17,42 46
7. 2. ? John Llewellyn/Gerry Marshall BRR/Johnston's + IMF B BMW M3 Evolution 21. 1:18,01 1:18,79 45
8. 3. 35 Ian Forrest/Bernard Hunter Prodrive/Novafone + Drambuie B BMW M3 Evolution 20. 1:17,60 1:18,20 45
9. 1. 56 John Cleland/Ian Flux Dave Cook/VDS + Mobil C Vauxhall Astra GTE 16V 22. 1:19,55 1:20,88 44
10. 6. 19 Dave Brodie/Andrew Gilbert-Scott Brodie Brittain Racing A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 2. 1:13,61 1:14,92 43
11. 4. 32 James Weaver/Steve Soper Prodrive/BMW Finance + Mobil B BMW M3 Evolution 14. 1:15,66 1:16,54 43
12. 2. 58 Louise Aitken-Walker/Vince Woodman Dave Cook/VDS + Mobil C Vauxhall Astra GTE 16V 26. 1:21,38 1:22,33 43
13. 1. 70 Phil Dowsett/Mark Goddard PDR-Toyota/AJG Transport D Toyota Corolla AE82 25. 1:21,18 1:23,68 42
14. 3. Mike Jordan/Peter Tyson Eurotech/Birmingham Veneers C Peugeot 309 GTI 29. 1:23,63 1:24,74 42
15. 2. 88 Tony Crudgington/Chuck Nicholson Crudgington D Toyota Corolla AE86 30. 1:23,99 1:24,21 42
16. 4. 50 Alan Minshaw/John Brindley Demon Tweeks/Castrol C Volkswagen Golf GTI 16V 27. 1:22,03 1:23,12 40
DNF DNF 43 Godfrey Hall/Lionel Abbott Maguire/Godfrey Hall BMW B BMW M3 Evolution 17. 1:16,62 1:18,43 39 fuel pick up
DNF DNF 20 Mike Smith/Mike Wilds Trakstar/Cartel + NEC + Shell A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 11. 1:14,96 1:15,33 34 accident
DNF DNF Mike O'Brien/Robin Donovan Drury/Blue Hawk A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 19. 1:16,85 1:17,41 33 brakes
DNF DNF 14 Graham Hathaway/Mike Wallis Hathaway/Soans + Kenwood HiFi A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 18. 1:16,83 1:19,04 30 Exhaust noise
DNF DNF John Clark/Andrew Jeffrey Maguire/AA'ways + New Town B BMW M3 Evolution 23. 1:20,17 1:18,79 29 clutch
DNF DNF 55 John Morris/Barrie Williams Morris/Listers C Volkswagen Golf GTI 16V 24. 1:21,16 1:21,16? 22 overheating
DNF DNF 4 Mike Newman/Alistair Lyall Goode/Listerine A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 12. 1:15,32 1:15,52 20 fire
DNF DNF 16 David Pinkney/Graham Scarborough Drury/Warrenty Holdings A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 13. 1:15,66 1:15,97 17 engine
DNF DNF 1 Andy Rouse/Win Percy Rouse/Kaliber A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 3. 1:13,91 1:15,53 13 injector
DSQ DSQ 2 Jerry Mahony/Gary Ayles Dowson/Arquati + Evans Halshaw A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 7. 1:14,44 1:16,10 8 overheating
DNF DNF Les Liddiard/Steve King? Liddiard D Toyota Corolla AE82 31. 1:27,22 1:26,96 6 engine
DNF DNF 28 Karl Jones/Vic Lee Lee Asquith/Duckhams A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 10. 1:14,66 1:16,59 5 hub
DNF DNF 77 Geoff Kimber-Smith/Barbara Cowell Five Star Racing/Duckhams D Toyota Corolla AE86 32. 1:28,77 1:39,15 4 misfire
DNQ DNQ 3 Graham Goode/Alistair Lyall Goode/Listerine + Texaco A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 28. 1:22,71 Too slow
DNQ DNQ 15 Chris Hodgetts/David Leslie Brooklyn/Shell A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 16. 1:16,52 Only Leslie qualified
            

Win for Laurence Bristow and Tiff Needell with tyre conservation and a well executed pit stop. Robb Gravett would lead away from pole but later Jeff Allam would fight low boost and wires on fire to finish second. Guy Edwards and Win Percy finished third on the road only to be disqualified as Percy hadn't qualified this but the sister Kaliber car of an already retired Andy Rouse.
Class B looked to be set up for Steve Soper and Frank Sytner, but as the race went on only sixth gear worked reliably dropping them to forth. Instead Frank Sytner and Will Hoy took a steady victory from privateers John Llewellyn/Gerry Marshall and Ian Forrest/Hunter, the last pair suffering from failing fuel pressure in the end.
John Cleland and Ian Flux won an easy class C victory after Barrie Williams in the John Morris VW Golf kept the pressure on for the opening laps. This was too much for the Golf and overheating problems forced it out midway through leaving second to the second Vauxhall of Louise Aitken-Walker and Vince Woodman.
Class D lost half its contenders within six laps leaving an easy victory for Phil Dowsett and Mark Goddard ahead of Tony Crudgington and Chuck Nicholson.

Autosport reports the John Morris/Barrie Williams VW Golf to have recorded similar 1:21.16 times during both qualifying and race! Unlikely I'd say, but does anyone know the correct fastest race lap of the team?

Thruxton-on-the-road-winner Dave Brodie had a spin due to a puncture early on and finished a lowly 10th overall.

Ian Forrest and Les Liddiard partnered with drivers unknown to me.

Time keepers apparantly forgot to note three laps for a sick Chris Hodgetts during qualifying meaning that only co-driver David Leslie was registered for a fast enough lap. Graham Goode was having engine troubles hindering any competitive times.
Forrest's co-driver was Bernard Hunter- I think he came from the same Scottish club racing background as Forrest.
Liddiard possibly shared with Steve King- not sure if it's the same Steve King who was around in Thundersaloons in the 80's
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Hope you don't mind me jumping in with some info from the BSP round!

I got a copy of the official qualifying times. Interestingly Alan Minshaw took two cars to Birmingham, his no. 30 BMW M3 car which he attempted to qualify and also he brought his no. 50 VW Golf GTi but it was never ran.

Graham Hathway and Robin Donovan arrived in Birmingham with their own Ford Sierra RS500s but never took part in the qualifying sessions.

Where is the 1990 BTCC thread so I can contribute there?
I think that Minshaw had given up on the Golf by Birmingham. I have seen an engine blow up being mentioned in one of the previous rounds.

There ain't no 1990 thread. Simply haven't got around to the details yet - but wait a minute or so for a thread...

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Hope you don't mind me jumping in with some info from the BSP round!

I got a copy of the official qualifying times. Interestingly Alan Minshaw took two cars to Birmingham, his no. 30 BMW M3 car which he attempted to qualify and also he brought his no. 50 VW Golf GTi but it was never ran.

Graham Hathway and Robin Donovan arrived in Birmingham with their own Ford Sierra RS500s but never took part in the qualifying sessions.

Where is the 1990 BTCC thread so I can contribute there?
1990 will probably be the next one we start once we've got '89 sorted...
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Great stuff, guys! A few notes and questions on the stuff covered so far:
  • A few car numbers need updating:
    #3 - Mike Newman
    #4 - Graham Goode
    #17 - Mike O'Brien
    #18 - Robin Donovan (O'Brien/Donovan used this car in the Donington 1hr race)
    #31 - John Clark
    #44 - John Llewellyn
  • I was under the impression that Bristow's 1988 car was sold and a new car used for 1989. I think I asked the question in the '88 thread with the response that it was sold to Asia. Doesn't 10-Tenths member Martinlabatts own the 89-90 Bristow car, now?
  • Graham Goode's retirement from Round 1 at Oulton Park should be listed as accident damage. Goode was exiting Old Hall on lap 1 when the Labatt's Sierra in front of him suddenly slowed. Goode slowed, but Mike Smith behind him didn't, hitting the right rear of the Listerine Sierra hard. Goode maintained control of the black Sierra, but slowed and retired with damaged suspension.
  • John Clark's retirement from Round 2 was an accident, but I suspect he had help. Clark crashed into the wall on the inside of the Hangar straight on the approach to Stowe. The skidmarks start on the inside of the track near the braking area, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was punted off by someone. It certainly would explain his angry exit from the car, as shown on the review video!
  • It's a small distinction, but Kimber-Smith had already been passed by Crudgington and Dowsett before he retired from Round 2. They comfortably outdragged him down the Hangar Straight on lap 1, probably an indicator of the engine problem that would cause his retirement.
  • Why were Hodgetts/Leslie and Goode/Lyall non-starters for Round 4 at Donington? I assume both cars had mechanical problems during practice/qualifying. Why didn't Leslie start when Nick May had started the race single-handed the year before? To save money when there was no chance of a result? And how was the Listerine car considered too slow when it was not the slowest qualifier overall? Did the RAC enforce an 'outside X% of fastest in class' regulation? Was there no mechanism in the regulations that would allow Goode's car to start, considering the car's usual performance? I know these questions are probably not covered in the race reports, but I'm just curious in how the British approach compared to the Australian approach of the time.
  • Mike Smith/Mike Wilds' retirement at Donington was caused by a mechanical failure that caused to car to spin off. The on-board camera in the car behind showed the car suddenly trail sparks immediately before Wilds spun off at McLeans. Specifically what failed wasn't mentioned in the review video, but it looks like something failed in the right rear suspension.
  • I don't believe there was any substance to the rumour that Mahony was buying a DJR Sierra. DJR didn't have any cars to spare at that point, and wouldn't until DJR5 was completed in time for the Sandown 500 in September. Also, there was no mention of Mahony's rumoured purchase in the Australian magazines of the time.
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Great stuff, guys! A few notes and questions on the stuff covered so far:
  • I was under the impression that Bristow's 1988 car was sold and a new car used for 1989. I think I asked the question in the '88 thread with the response that it was sold to Asia. Doesn't 10-Tenths member Martinlabatts own the 89-90 Bristow car, now?
Yes, I think the Labatt's cars were new for 1989 as well. 'Martinlabatts' has owned both cars, the Harvey car which is now in Australia, and the Bristow car which I think he still had- it's a bit of a hybrid, restored to Labatt's colours, although it's still in the Thundersaloon spec that Bristow had it converted to- IIRC it ran with Arquati and Securicor Omega Express sponsorship in that spec, but never Labatt's
  • Why were Hodgetts/Leslie and Goode/Lyall non-starters for Round 4 at Donington? I assume both cars had mechanical problems during practice/qualifying. Why didn't Leslie start when Nick May had started the race single-handed the year before? To save money when there was no chance of a result? And how was the Listerine car considered too slow when it was not the slowest qualifier overall? Did the RAC enforce an 'outside X% of fastest in class' regulation? Was there no mechanism in the regulations that would allow Goode's car to start, considering the car's usual performance? I know these questions are probably not covered in the race reports, but I'm just curious in how the British approach compared to the Australian approach of the time.
From memory, where the entry exceeded the usually-allowed number of starters, they sometimes used effectively a 'quota' system, so the fastest X number of cars in each class would get a start- the 'outside X% of fastest in class' rule is another possibility.
Alternatively, they may have only been listed as reserves in an over-subscribed entry- to be honest, I don't know which circumstances apply, it's one that's been puzzling me since I looked at the result

Given the below-par performance of the Goode car in qualifying (Jesper mentioned engine problems), did the team ever intend to start both cars after one had problems?- note they'd only got three drivers (Goode, Newman and Lyall) to handle the two cars, and I won't swear to this, but the Motoring News report might have suggested that all three drivers qualified in the Newman car at least, if not both?

Re the Brooklyn car, Jesper mentioned that Chris Hodgetts was sick- again, is it possible that Chris might have decided he wasn't fit to race and opted to withdraw the car after he failed to qualify?
  • Mike Smith/Mike Wilds' retirement at Donington was caused by a mechanical failure that caused to car to spin off. The on-board camera in the car behind showed the car suddenly trail sparks immediately before Wilds spun off at McLeans. Specifically what failed wasn't mentioned in the review video, but it looks like something failed in the right rear suspension.
Could well be rear suspension as you say- I haven't watched the review video in a while. I've also got a vague memory that the car might also have been dragging it's exhaust system- from memory Smith had a big 'rallycrossing' moment, taking a trip across the infield after going off possibly between McLeans and Coppice earlier in the race?
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a couple of thoughts on some of those points
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[*]I was under the impression that Bristow's 1988 car was sold and a new car used for 1989. I think I asked the question in the '88 thread with the response that it was sold to Asia. Doesn't 10-Tenths member Martinlabatts own the 89-90 Bristow car, now?
I will have to look into that, as I can't remember where I picked that up.

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[*]Why were Hodgetts/Leslie and Goode/Lyall non-starters for Round 4 at Donington? I assume both cars had mechanical problems during practice/qualifying. Why didn't Leslie start when Nick May had started the race single-handed the year before? To save money when there was no chance of a result? And how was the Listerine car considered too slow when it was not the slowest qualifier overall? Did the RAC enforce an 'outside X% of fastest in class' regulation? Was there no mechanism in the regulations that would allow Goode's car to start, considering the car's usual performance? I know these questions are probably not covered in the race reports, but I'm just curious in how the British approach compared to the Australian approach of the time.
As reported from the race any class could only make up 40 % of the grid made up of 30 cars. In the Autosport report it's reported as "12 from 14 Sierras will be allowed to race" or something similar. There seems to have been done some tidying up of the sporting regulations in early 1989, which explain that one driver starting for a two driver race was a no-no by 1989.
The Goode Sierra was still the 14th and slowest RS500 due to what is described as a cronic misfire, while Hodgetts wasn't reported to have done any quick laps during qualifying.

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[*]I don't believe there was any substance to the rumour that Mahony was buying a DJR Sierra. DJR didn't have any cars to spare at that point, and wouldn't until DJR5 was completed in time for the Sandown 500 in September. Also, there was no mention of Mahony's rumoured purchase in the Australian magazines of the time.[/LIST]
I was a bit perplexed at this item too, as the six DJR cars seems to have been well covered on various threads, but will look out for any relevant news regarding the matter during 1989.

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...The Goode Sierra was still the 14th and slowest RS500 due to what is described as a cronic misfire, while Hodgetts wasn't reported to have done any quick laps during qualifying.



I was a bit perplexed at this item too, as the six DJR cars seems to have been well covered on various threads, but will look out for any relevant news regarding the matter during 1989.

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The mis-fire in practice became much worse, so much so that despite the efforts of the team (and suggestions from others) could not be cured for the race.
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Round 5 of 13 of the 1989 Esso RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Monday May 29th 1989 over 14 laps on the 3.791 kms Thruxton circuit. Race scheduled for 17 laps, but stopped after 14 laps due to an accident partly blocking the circuit.

Coverage from BBC on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jT3X...om=PL&index=65
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5CAV...eature=related

Pos.Cl.#DriverTeam/sponsorCat.CarGridTimeFastest lapLapsTimeNotes
1. 1. 1 Andy Rouse Rouse/Kaliber A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 2. 1:20,24 1:22,12 14 19:17,41
2. 2. 7 Tim Harvey Rouse/Labatt's A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 4. 1:20,79 1:21,65 14 19:18,50
3. 3. 4 Mike Newman Goode/Listerine A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 6. 1:21,21 1:21,83 14 19:20,48
4. 4. 28 Karl Jones Lee-Asquith/Duckhams A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 7. 1:21,42 1:21,90 14 19:26,11
5. 5. 20 Mike Smith Trakstar/Cartel + NEC + Shell A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 12. 1:22,13 1:22,03 14 19:35,18
6. 6. 5 Sean Walker Goode/FAI + Moss Security A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 11. 1:21,92 1:22,65 14 19:36,95
7. 7. 25 Gerrit van Kouwen JQF/Fina Unleaded A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 14. 1:22,30 1:23,31 14 19:51,10
8. 1. 32 James Weaver Prodrive/BMW Finance + Mobil B BMW M3 Evolution 15. 1:22,90 1:23,72 14 19:54,13
9. 8. Robin Donovan Drury/Blue Hawk A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 20. 1:24,59 1:24,21 14 19:59,28
10. 9. 3 Graham Goode Goode/Listerine + Texaco A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 8. 1:21,48 1:23,60 14 20:00,28
11. 10. 16 David Pinkney Drury/Warrenty Holdings A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 17. 1:23,57 1:23,30 14 20:00,52
12. 2. 43 Godfrey Hall Maguire/Godfrey Hall BMW B BMW M3 Evolution 24. 1:25,63 1:24,77 14 20:08,02
13. 3. John Llewellyn BRR/Johnston's + IMF B BMW M3 Evolution 19. 1:24,58 1:25,05 14 20:09,07
14. 11. 19 Dave Brodie Brodie Brittain/Hillstone A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 1. 1:19,46 1:21,06 14 20:13,09
15. 1. 56 John Cleland Dave Cook/VDS + Mobil C Vauxhall Astra GTE 16V 21. 1:24,94 1:26,05 13
16. 2. 58 Louise Aitken-Walker Dave Cook/VDS + Mobil C Vauxhall Astra GTE 16V 26. 1:27,84 1:27,01 13
17. 3. 55 John Morris Morris/Listers C Volkswagen Golf GTI 16V 25. 1:26,99 1:28,17 13
18. 12. 6 Laurence Bristow Rouse/Labatt's A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 13. 1:22,15 1:23,29 13
19. 4. 33 Frank Sytner Prodrive/BMW Finance + Mobil B BMW M3 Evolution 16. 1:23,37 1:24,36 13
20. 1. 88 Tony Crudgington Crudgington D Toyota Corolla GT 29. 1:29,01 1:29,61 12
21. 13. Nick May Trident/Nokia Mobira + Campari A Maserati Biturbo 27. 1:28,59 1:29,05 11
22. 2. 77 Geoff Kimber-Smith Five Star/Duckhams D Toyota Corolla GT 34. 1:40,81 1:47,39 11
23. 3. Tony Dolley Dolley/Wembdon Motors D Toyota Corolla GT 31. 1:33,56 1:36,04 10
DNF DNF Mike O'Brien Drury/Autoglass + Swan National A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 22. 1:24,94 1:25,25 12 electrics
DNF DNF 21 Robb Gravett Trakstar/Cartel + NEC + Shell A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 3. 1:20,44 1:20,87 9 accident
DNF DNF 70 Phil Dowsett PDR-Toyota D Toyota Corolla GT 28. 1:28,80 1:29,32 8 accident
DNF DNF 15 Chris Hodgetts Brooklyn/Shell A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 9. 1:21,64 1:24,12 5 overheating
DNF DNF 2 Jerry Mahony Dowson/Arquati + Evans Halshaw A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 10. 1:21,81 1:22,68 4 engine
DNF DNF 50 Alan Minshaw Demon Tweeks/Castrol C Volkswagen Golf GTI 16V 30. 1:31,25 1:37,63 3 misfire
DNF DNF 35 Ian Forrest Prodrive/Novafone + Drambuie B BMW M3 Evolution 23. 1:25,61 1:49,34 2 tyre
DNS DNS 10 Guy Edwards Rouse/Kaliber A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 5. 1:21,18 accident
DNS DNS 9 Mark Rennison Rennison/Shell + Skipper's A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 18. 1:23,62 engine
DNS DNS Les Liddiard Liddiard D Toyota Corolla GT 32. 1:35,44 engine
DNS DNS 14 Graham Hathaway Hathaway/Soans A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 33. 1:38,72

Taking off almost three abreast pole sitter Dave Brodie soon challenged early race leader Andy Rouse with Robb Gravett in the best seat to the action. Already by lap 1 Rouse was down to third while Brodie eaked out an advantage ever so slightly on Gravett. Midway through the race the two front runners came up to lap the dicing class D Corollas of Tony Crudgington and Phil Dowsett. Brodie went through on the start finish straight while Gravett caught up with them at the Complex. Crudgington was defending his class lead on the inside while Gravett, desparately not to loose too much time to Brodie, took the outside line leaving Dowsett nowhere to go in the middle. The Sierra was sent backwards into the tyre wall by Dowsett and both retired on the spot with a short fire from the Gravett car. Later a rescue vehicle was sent to the scene of the accident and parked on the race line the race was flagged off.
By then Dave Brodie had suffered from a puncture leaving him in a lowly 14th and thus Andy Rouse enherited the lead and eventual win. Tim Harvey, running at a conservative pace in the early going, had the tyres to challenge Rouse for the lead late in the race but his charge was cut short by the early flag fall. For a while Mike Newman had been running as best of the rest and would take third at the flag from a very competitive Karl Jones while Mike Smith had to fend off Sean Walker for the final two point placings. Laurence Bristow was up amongst the best but had a coming together with Graham Goode sending both cars spinning. Bristow then suffered a puncture eventually finishing him well down the order while Goode minus rear bumper finished 10th.
James Weaver took a relatively relaxed class B victory when Frank Sytner was delayed by a pit stop for a new front tyre, leaving him forth in class. Godfrey Hall fought with Ian Forrest over the first few laps for best of the rest with Forrest retiring and John Llewellyn catching up to Hall in the fight for second but never made it past.
John Cleland was in cruise mode for victory when he had to up the tempo to gain the fastest lap back from Louise Aitken-Walker. The pair would take another 1-2 with John Morris challenging for second in the early laps and Alan Minshaw retiring very early on.
Phil Dowsett lead away in class D but was passed by Tony Crudgington and then fighting each other for some laps. The fight was broken up when Gravett intervened leaving Crudgington to win, Dowsett to the tyre wall and Geoff Kimber-Smith to second.

It's reported that Louise Aitken-Walker will have a proper circuit car by the Grand Prix support race.

Dave Brodie has received additional support from Springfield but still looks rather bare in the sponsor department.

Please note that the Karl Jones RS500 at some early season stage is entered as Lee Asquith Motorsport. Vic Lee, his co-driver from Donington, entering the BTCC?
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The first clip only shows the second half of Brodie's rant, so here's a transcript of the first half, as shown on the review video!

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Well these turkeys, they're gonna have to start getting up early in the morning if they wanna take me and my team on. They turn up with their big transporters and their good-looking motorhomes, and they prance around the paddock all day long in their overalls, but when it comes to getting the business done they're a bunch of wallies. Apart from Andy.
Not shown on the review video was Brodie giving Tim Harvey the trophy for the Thruxton win - complete with the original, still-sealed bottle of champagne! - in the paddock before the Snetterton round.

It's not hard to like Dave Brodie!
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Re the TT, unfortunately as we all know it was cancelled (or at least not run to Group A regs) as the traditional ETC backbone had gone after the cancellation of that series. Like many i'm sure, I was massively dissappointed by all of this as I was looking forward to Rouse matching upto Eggenberger and hopefully several Australian and German entries!
Australian Auto Action quoted early in 1989 that DJR were planning another attack on the TT later in the year. The same magazine also mentions in another issue (perhaps when reporting Gravett's round 1 win?) that Johnson & Bowe were possible starters in the Donington 1hr race in the second Trakstar Sierra (with Gravett/Smith teaming up in the other)

A shame neither came off...


On another matter, why the switch to rolling starts for 1989?
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I think that Minshaw had given up on the Golf by Birmingham. I have seen an engine blow up being mentioned in one of the previous rounds.

There ain't no 1990 thread. Simply haven't got around to the details yet - but wait a minute or so for a thread...

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John Morris took over the Minshaw Golf for the final round at Silverstone- his own had been badly shunted at the previous round. I think I've read somewhere that he used his own engine in Minshaw's car- the Demon Tweeks machine having been sidelined with a blown engine as you suggest?
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Round 5 of 13 of the 1989 Esso RAC British Touring Car Championship held on Monday May 29th 1989 over 14 laps on the 3.791 kms Thruxton circuit. Race scheduled for 17 laps, but stopped after 14 laps due to an accident partly blocking the circuit.

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Pos.Cl.#DriverTeam/sponsorCat.CarGridTimeFastest lapLapsTimeNotes
1. 1. 1 Andy Rouse Rouse/Kaliber A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 2. 1:20,24 1:22,12 14 19:17,41
2. 2. 7 Tim Harvey Rouse/Labatt's A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 4. 1:20,79 1:21,65 14 19:18,50
3. 3. 4 Mike Newman Goode/Listerine A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 6. 1:21,21 1:21,83 14 19:20,48
4. 4. 28 Karl Jones Lee-Asquith/Duckhams A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 7. 1:21,42 1:21,90 14 19:26,11
5. 5. 20 Mike Smith Trakstar/Cartel + NEC + Shell A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 12. 1:22,13 1:22,03 14 19:35,18
6. 6. 5 Sean Walker Goode/FAI + Moss Security A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 11. 1:21,92 1:22,65 14 19:36,95
7. 7. 25 Gerrit van Kouwen JQF/Fina Unleaded A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 14. 1:22,30 1:23,31 14 19:51,10
8. 1. 32 James Weaver Prodrive/BMW Finance + Mobil B BMW M3 Evolution 15. 1:22,90 1:23,72 14 19:54,13
9. 8. Robin Donovan Drury/Blue Hawk A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 20. 1:24,59 1:24,21 14 19:59,28
10. 9. 3 Graham Goode Goode/Listerine + Texaco A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 8. 1:21,48 1:23,60 14 20:00,28
11. 10. 16 David Pinkney Drury/Warrenty Holdings A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 17. 1:23,57 1:23,30 14 20:00,52
12. 2. 43 Godfrey Hall Maguire/Godfrey Hall BMW B BMW M3 Evolution 24. 1:25,63 1:24,77 14 20:08,02
13. 3. John Llewellyn BRR/Johnston's + IMF B BMW M3 Evolution 19. 1:24,58 1:25,05 14 20:09,07
14. 11. 19 Dave Brodie Brodie Brittain/Hillstone A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 1. 1:19,46 1:21,06 14 20:13,09
15. 1. 56 John Cleland Dave Cook/VDS + Mobil C Vauxhall Astra GTE 16V 21. 1:24,94 1:26,05 13
16. 2. 58 Louise Aitken-Walker Dave Cook/VDS + Mobil C Vauxhall Astra GTE 16V 26. 1:27,84 1:27,01 13
17. 3. 55 John Morris Morris/Listers C Volkswagen Golf GTI 16V 25. 1:26,99 1:28,17 13
18. 12. 6 Laurence Bristow Rouse/Labatt's A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 13. 1:22,15 1:23,29 13
19. 4. 33 Frank Sytner Prodrive/BMW Finance + Mobil B BMW M3 Evolution 16. 1:23,37 1:24,36 13
20. 1. 88 Tony Crudgington Crudgington D Toyota Corolla GT 29. 1:29,01 1:29,61 12
21. 13. Nick May Trident/Nokia Mobira + Campari A Maserati Biturbo 27. 1:28,59 1:29,05 11
22. 2. 77 Geoff Kimber-Smith Five Star/Duckhams D Toyota Corolla GT 34. 1:40,81 1:47,39 11
23. 3. Tony Dolley Dolley/Wembdon Motors D Toyota Corolla GT 31. 1:33,56 1:36,04 10
DNF DNF Mike O'Brien Drury/Autoglass + Swan National A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 22. 1:24,94 1:25,25 12 electrics
DNF DNF 21 Robb Gravett Trakstar/Cartel + NEC + Shell A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 3. 1:20,44 1:20,87 9 accident
DNF DNF 70 Phil Dowsett PDR-Toyota D Toyota Corolla GT 28. 1:28,80 1:29,32 8 accident
DNF DNF 15 Chris Hodgetts Brooklyn/Shell A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 9. 1:21,64 1:24,12 5 overheating
DNF DNF 2 Jerry Mahony Dowson/Arquati + Evans Halshaw A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 10. 1:21,81 1:22,68 4 engine
DNF DNF 50 Alan Minshaw Demon Tweeks/Castrol C Volkswagen Golf GTI 16V 30. 1:31,25 1:37,63 3 misfire
DNF DNF 35 Ian Forrest Prodrive/Novafone + Drambuie B BMW M3 Evolution 23. 1:25,61 1:49,34 2 tyre
DNS DNS 10 Guy Edwards Rouse/Kaliber A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 5. 1:21,18 accident
DNS DNS 9 Mark Rennison Rennison/Shell + Skipper's A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 18. 1:23,62 engine
DNS DNS Les Liddiard Liddiard D Toyota Corolla GT 32. 1:35,44 engine
DNS DNS 14 Graham Hathaway Hathaway/Soans A Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth 33. 1:38,72
            

It's reported that Louise Aitken-Walker will have a proper circuit car by the Grand Prix support race.

From memory, Cleland had a new car mid-season, his original then being taken over by Louise. The ex-rally car she started the year with became the third car for Jeremy Rossiter

Please note that the Karl Jones RS500 at some early season stage is entered as Lee Asquith Motorsport. Vic Lee, his co-driver from Donington, entering the BTCC?
I think Lee became a partner in the Asquith team for a while, before going off to set up his own operation for 1990
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