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Old 5 Sep 2017, 11:02 (Ref:3764688)   #46
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Many companies have been keeping their eyes and ears open about the new engine regulations for 2021. They include BMW, VAG, Cosworth and Ilmor, and many have even been participating in the FIA meetings that are part of the process to decide on the new rules.

It doesn't mean, though, that all or any of them will actually be a part of F1 after 2021.
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Old 5 Sep 2017, 11:13 (Ref:3764689)   #47
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Many companies have been keeping their eyes and ears open about the new engine regulations for 2021. They include BMW, VAG, Cosworth and Ilmor, and many have even been participating in the FIA meetings that are part of the process to decide on the new rules.

It doesn't mean, though, that all or any of them will actually be a part of F1 after 2021.
Yes - I would expect any engine maker involved with motorsport to keep abreast of developments.
And if Porsche feel they have a 1% chance of supplying an engine, then they'll only be making positive comments about the direction of the regulations.

It is also prudent to remain aware of upcoming changes, otherwise you will always be playing catch up if you decide to get involved at a later date.

A lot is made of how Mercedes have the best engine currently because they were involved in developing the current regulations from the start. No other serious rival would be keen to allow that to happen again.
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Old 5 Sep 2017, 12:01 (Ref:3764695)   #48
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Finally we're getting somewhere.

Porsche confirms interest as engine supplier.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/p...r-2021-949446/

Would be great to see them on the grid in 2021.
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There's definitely a big leap in the article though from Porsche saying they attended meetings and are glad with the direction the regulations are heading, and the writer claiming they are 'seriously considering'. Nothing from Porsche suggests anything else than being an interested observer, who is open to potential and just sounding out the possibilities.
Interestingly, in a Sky interview, Christian Horner mentioned that Lamborghini (also part of VAG with Porsche), had been in presumably the same or similar meetings along with Red Bull sponsor/partner Aston Martin.

If VAG are really interested, they could be looking to find out which badge will best fit, or even if able to supply more than one team using more than one badge.
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Old 5 Sep 2017, 13:33 (Ref:3764712)   #49
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Well let's hope they do better than Honda and also better than they did last time they were in F1
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If VAG are really interested, they could be looking to find out which badge will best fit, or even if able to supply more than one team using more than one badge.
VAG-TAG badged engine?

Who hasn't been involved in the discussion then, it sounds like the rooms have been quite busy?
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Old 5 Sep 2017, 19:18 (Ref:3764783)   #51
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VAG-TAG badged engine?

Who hasn't been involved in the discussion then, it sounds like the rooms have been quite busy?
Me, at least not for a while. I read the Autosport article and at this juncture it's just speculation at the moment but I will continue to follow this with interest.
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Interestingly, in a Sky interview, Christian Horner mentioned that Lamborghini (also part of VAG with Porsche), had been in presumably the same or similar meetings..
Yes that's correct. It was some guy named Stefano Domenicali.

Other's representing Audi, Aston Martin, Porsche and Cosworth have at some stage attended the future engine discussions. Rumour has it Ford and Toyota have expressed their interest with Ross Brawn, but have never attended the meetings, or said much more than that they could be interested.
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Old 6 Sep 2017, 11:33 (Ref:3764907)   #53
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Zytek and magneti marelli have also attended talks.
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Maybe the question should be: who has not attended those meetings or made clear they are not interested
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Zytek and magneti marelli have also attended talks.
Yes. But I thought we were discussing possible F1 engine manufacturers for 2021? Not current component suppliers??

Unless this is inside information - and Zytek and Magneti Marelli are planning to build F1 engines for 2021?
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Yes. But I thought we were discussing possible F1 engine manufacturers for 2021? Not current component suppliers??

Unless this is inside information - and Zytek and Magneti Marelli are planning to build F1 engines for 2021?
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/F1-aston-martin-cosworth-engine-meeting-926708/

' formal meeting [of the F1 power unit working group] was held on Monday, with Aston Martin, Cosworth, Zytek and Magneti Marelli attending for the first time.'

I guess I missed the part that explained which elements of the PU this thread was restricted to?
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Some suppliers are major partners with the manufacturers. It makes sense for them to be involved. However, when it comes time for F1 to accumulate and rank the feedback, clearly some voices will be heard louder than others.

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An 'insider'* viewpoint:

This might be posturing to strengthen its hand in ongoing negotiations over the type of engine, of which it is integral (along with current suppliers Ferrari, Honda, Mercedes and Renault, and other outliers like Alfa Romeo, Aston Martin, Audi, Cosworth, Ilmor and Zytek).















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I was just thinking which F1 team has the best relations with Porsche?.......I heard they used Williams wind-tunnel extensively to develop their LMP1 car.....and they used Williams Engineering flywheel-hybrid KERS system in the Porsche GT3 car as a demonstrator, then later in the Audi LMP1 for a few seasons.......so I'd put a bet on Williams getting a Porsche F1 motor deal

Failing that it would be very easy for Porsche to buy the whole Sauber outfit and turn it into a complete Porsche F1 factory effort

will be interesting to see what happens.....
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I was just thinking which F1 team has the best relations with Porsche?.......I heard they used Williams wind-tunnel extensively to develop their LMP1 car.....and they used Williams Engineering flywheel-hybrid KERS system in the Porsche GT3 car as a demonstrator, then later in the Audi LMP1 for a few seasons.......so I'd put a bet on Williams getting a Porsche F1 motor deal

Failing that it would be very easy for Porsche to buy the whole Sauber outfit and turn it into a complete Porsche F1 factory effort

will be interesting to see what happens.....
Joe Saward suggested Williams was the ideal place for Porsche back in August too, adding that Porsche also have links with Martini.... https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/15647
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