2018 VASC Silly Season (with POLL)

[Mixer]

So Frosty to LDM?

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[rich07]

Originally Posted by Mixer

So Frosty to LDM?

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Which round?

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

So... Frosty is out of deal at season's end...
The Bottle O is out of deal at season's end...
Frosty has personal sponsors on him & the car..
Frosty costs money to drive, big money..

Mr Stanaway is coming back to Australia...
Mr Stanaway has a deal with prodrive...
Mr Stanaway has a sponsor/patron group supporting him...
Mr Stanaway would be cheap to get... rookie cheap...

Straight swap?

Chaz is out of contract, despite articles saying he was signed to 2019, 2017 and the rest, this year he is out. I'd say he will resign. As far as I know though from the Chaz-2019 contract, Frosty is signed to the end of 2018. As there is a years difference between the 2 contracts

[WatchingOn]

http://www.supercars.com/news/super2...t-with-erebus/

Good to see teams using their rookie evaluation days (I think they get 3 a year), more teams should jump on board, great way to evaluate the talent coming through and also get some miles/testing for their cars

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by mceci1

Chaz is out of contract, despite articles saying he was signed to 2019, 2017 and the rest, this year he is out. I'd say he will resign. As far as I know though from the Chaz-2019 contract, Frosty is signed to the end of 2018. As there is a years difference between the 2 contracts

In seems that DJTP retaining Coulthard before his recent form implosion could be a mistake then.

Mostert and McLaughin would have been a hell of a lineup - such a shame.

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

In seems that DJTP retaining Coulthard before his recent form implosion could be a mistake then.

Mostert and McLaughin would have been a hell of a lineup - such a shame.

I knew the coulthard fall was coming, just a matter of when

[Backagain]

Originally Posted by mceci1

I knew the coulthard fall was coming, just a matter of when

Holy crap, why didn't you warn them, could have altered the future of the team and the championship.

[Umai Naa]

Nostradamaus and historian?

Oh my...

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by Backagain

Holy crap, why didn't you warn them, could have altered the future of the team and the championship.

Not hard to see, look back at his past with BJR when he was in title contention, started well and fell back.

[one five five]

Originally Posted by mceci1

Not hard to see, look back at his past with BJR when he was in title contention, started well and fell back.

Was that Coulthard, or BJR?

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by one five five

Was that Coulthard, or BJR?

I'm going to say Coulthard, while Slade wasn't in title contention he managed to keep consistent all year last year, came close to winning Bathurst for BJR then Coulthard, a lot had to do with a weird race, but still was on pace, as was Coulthard and Youlden in 15, yet I don't think they had the car pace to win given the desperate dive bomb on Davey

[Matt K]

Would be great to see someone else in DJR Team Penske instead of Coulthard however Fabian is still third in the championship so despite all the latest trouble he's theoretically in the contention. I was sure that Coulthard will not be able to fight with Scott McLaughlin on a year basis but he's still running strong. His deal expires at the end of 2018 so we'll see who'll be on the cards for 2019

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Would be great to see someone else in DJR Team Penske instead of Coulthard however Fabian is still third in the championship so despite all the latest trouble he's theoretically in the contention. I was sure that Coulthard will not be able to fight with Scott McLaughlin on a year basis but he's still running strong. His deal expires at the end of 2018 so we'll see who'll be on the cards for 2019

closer to 2nd than (JDub) than J dub is to first

Shouldnt write him off in my opinion

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Matt K

His deal expires at the end of 2018 so we'll see who'll be on the cards for 2019

If Penske history tells us anything, and Coulthard just keeps doing what he's doing, he will get renewed.

[Umai Naa]

Didn't pan out so well for Mr Pye.

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by peckstar

closer to 2nd than (JDub) than J dub is to first

Shouldnt write him off in my opinion

I would write Whincup off though, I'm sure we have all made that mistake. I'm expecting Lowndes to jump up into the top 5 too by seasons end, only good tracks from hear out for him with the exception of Pukekhoe. Sandown and Bathurst (as much as a Ford person I am) I hope will be Lowndes/Richards domination followed by Frosty/Canto and Mostert/Owen for 3rd

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Would be great to see someone else in DJR Team Penske instead of Coulthard however Fabian is still third in the championship so despite all the latest trouble he's theoretically in the contention. I was sure that Coulthard will not be able to fight with Scott McLaughlin on a year basis but he's still running strong. His deal expires at the end of 2018 so we'll see who'll be on the cards for 2019

Penske and Johnson would be mad to just ignore Chaz, and I'd certainly be watching Cam Waters, also dependant on when it happens, Anton De Pisqaule

[one five five]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Didn't pan out so well for Mr Pye.

No, but that was one of the very few exceptions to the norm for Penske drivers

The only other short term Penske drivers (full-time drivers) I can think of over the journey are Kevin Cogan, Andre Ribeiro, David Stremme.....and maybe Bill Alsup but I don't think he really counts

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by one five five

No, but that was one of the very few exceptions to the norm for Penske drivers

The only other short term Penske drivers (full-time drivers) I can think of over the journey are Kevin Cogan, Andre Ribeiro, David Stremme.....and maybe Bill Alsup but I don't think he really counts

Still think that was harsh, DJR wasn't on their game last year, and now again his talent is being wasted at Walkinslow Racing. Shame he deserves a better seat

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by mceci1

Still think that was harsh, DJR wasn't on their game last year, and now again his talent is being wasted at Walkinslow Racing. Shame he deserves a better seat

What talent? Being unable to win in the Wilson DJR Ford that Mostert cruised to race victory in?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by mceci1

Still think that was harsh, DJR wasn't on their game last year, and now again his talent is being wasted at Walkinslow Racing. Shame he deserves a better seat

Given that Mr Pye was supported by Mr Dane in his early Super career, does it not tell you something that 888 has not tried to create a program for Mr Pye, whether a 4th car at 888 proper, or sliding into one of their 2 satellite teams?

[Umai Naa]

If he had won DVS as expected, his career may have played out a little different.

[mayhem]

Has he got a case of the Mark Webbers, you know, right place, wrong time?

[chavez]

Originally Posted by mayhem

Has he got a case of the Mark Webbers, you know, right place, wrong time?

Arguably he is more consistent than Webber, consistently a mid field runner.

Webber was on fire one week and nowhere to be seen the next. A problem going right back to his Formula Ford days.

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

What talent? Being unable to win in the Wilson DJR Ford that Mostert cruised to race victory in?

Pye has the talent, in my opinion more then Coulthard in a bad car as we saw last year. Most of his crashes haven't been his fault.

2013: Championship finish- 27th
Symmons - Brake failure
Perth - Rotated by silliness of Tander


2014: Championship finish-19th
Adelaide - Caught up in Bright's roll
SMP - Taken out by Reynolds after Winterbottom shoved Dave off
Bathurst - Suspension failure
Homebush - Todd Kelly's crash at turn 1, end result bounding out into Pye

2015: Championship finish-19th
Bathurst - Steering failure, ended up in the wall at the grate

2016: Championship finish-15th
Hidden Valley - Served by Dave Reynolds and put him into the side of Caruso and broke his steering

2017: Currently 17th (ahead of Courtney in a Walkinshaw car, arguably worse then his 2014 DJR car)
Symmons - Caught in the crash caused by Coulthard and Kelly

DNFs
2013: 5
2014: 4
2015: 3
2016: 2
2017*: 1

Podiums
2013: 0
2014: 0
2015: 1
2016: 2

Top 10:
2013: 1
2014: 9
2015: 13
2016: 9
2017: 1

I think that proves he is improving. Just because he isn't getting wins in a bad car doesn't mean he hasn't got talent, he results have shown nothing but improvement. To get top 10s in an LDM car and a Walkinshaw car is enough said given they battle to get their cars good enough for the top 20