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Old 2 Dec 2012, 17:13 (Ref:3174239)   #1
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FIA Announce 2013 F1 Entry List
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Old 2 Dec 2012, 19:09 (Ref:3174261)   #2
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Interesting, but I'd rather wait to see the individual entry lists for the various Grands Prix. There's bound to be the odd one-off entry from enthusiasts. Obviously.
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Interesting, but I'd rather wait to see the individual entry lists for the various Grands Prix. There's bound to be the odd one-off entry from enthusiasts. Obviously.
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Surprised that several of the drives that we all thought were already nailed on listed as TBC?
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Surprised that several of the drives that we all thought were already nailed on listed as TBC?
As it says in the Autosport article, the teams have yet to decide which driver gets which of their numbers, so the list shows TBC.
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Yes, there's a lot of superstition and that's a very complicated equation, so they must be careful !
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Is there any significance in the driver numbers - a form of driver hierarchy?

For example, the higher ranking of the two drivers in each team seem to command the number nearest to #1, e.g. Vettel 'outranks' Webber, Alonso outranks Massa, Button is #5, Perez is 6.

And yet, Hamilton (10) is a 'lower' number than Rosberg (9). Interesting ...
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good for Rosberg as his last teammate requested that they change numbers. cant recall if it was superstition or another reason why Schumi wanted the 3 instead of the 4 he was originally assigned?

i guess its no different than in any other sport though.
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And yet, Hamilton (10) is a 'lower' number than Rosberg (9). Interesting ...
This is quite usual. When Alonso joined Ferrari he was number 6 to Massa's #5. When Vettel joined Red Bull he was number 15 to Webber's #14. I wouldn't read too much into it. The existing driver is usually given the lower number.
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This is quite usual. When Alonso joined Ferrari he was number 6 to Massa's #5. When Vettel joined Red Bull he was number 15 to Webber's #14. I wouldn't read too much into it. The existing driver is usually given the lower number.

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good for Rosberg as his last teammate requested that they change numbers. cant recall if it was superstition or another reason why Schumi wanted the 3 instead of the 4 he was originally assigned?
'Superstition' - though I think there might have been other reasons...
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'Superstition' - though I think there might have been other reasons...
I agree. Having the odd number, ergo his name before his team mates shows a "team leader" gamesmanship.
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I'd love F3 drivers to pick a two-digit number and use it their whole formula racing career. Drivers ranked 1-10 in a season would be allowed to use that number the next season in that championship.
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I'd love F3 drivers to pick a two-digit number and use it their whole formula racing career. Drivers ranked 1-10 in a season would be allowed to use that number the next season in that championship.
Doesn't tie in with F1's orderly way of doing things. On the entry list, you could have 2 team mates 15 spaces apart.
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I don't mind that. Triple Eight drivers in V8 Supercars have numbers 1 and 888.
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I don't mind that. Triple Eight drivers in V8 Supercars have numbers 1 and 888.
But that's V8's. They don't do that sort of thing in F1. No uniform to the system.
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I'd love F3 drivers to pick a two-digit number and use it their whole formula racing career. Drivers ranked 1-10 in a season would be allowed to use that number the next season in that championship.
What happens when two drivers have the same number?
There's only 99 possible two-digit numbers to choose from, surely in the F3 championships around the world there's more than 99 drivers?
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i don't. racing drivers are the most superstitious bunch of people you'll ever meet. they get in from one side of the car with a specific foot first, wear lucky underpants and lucky gloves and have a picture of the virgin mary in the cockpit.

and that's the non-superstitious ones who might consider driving car 13....
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i don't. racing drivers are the most superstitious bunch of people you'll ever meet. they get in from one side of the car with a specific foot first, wear lucky underpants and lucky gloves and have a picture of the virgin mary in the cockpit.

and that's the non-superstitious ones who might consider driving car 13....
The logic is why give bad luck a chance ?
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i don't. racing drivers are the most superstitious bunch of people you'll ever meet. they get in from one side of the car with a specific foot first, wear lucky underpants and lucky gloves and have a picture of the virgin mary in the cockpit.

and that's the non-superstitious ones who might consider driving car 13....
But 13 is 'lucky-for-some'.
All it needs is an optimist to decide that he'll grab the extra luck on offer with 13 and go with it.
Not sure how it worked out for Solana though.
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The logic is why give bad luck a chance ?
luck happens regardless of what pants you're wearing. i mean, seriously... you have to be pretty deluded to believe that a driver in another car will act differently because he subconsciously is aware of the secret fact that the guy in the other car is wearing lucky pants. or that a tyre won't pick up a puncture through the debris because the driver got in the car from the left side.
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