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Old 12 May 2005, 13:02 (Ref:1299157)   #1
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Wakefield Pk HPDC Rd2

I see round 2 of the HPDC V8 Development series is on at Goulburn this weekend (13-15 May)

Who's going, who's gunna win & what support categories are there?
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Old 13 May 2005, 09:00 (Ref:1299721)   #2
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I would like to know the entry list, cannot seem to find who and what are running. Anyone know!!!!!
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Old 13 May 2005, 09:08 (Ref:1299727)   #3
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ENTRY LIST (disappointing at that)

19 Brad Jones Racing Dale Brede AU
26 Fujitsu Racing Jose Fernandez BA
27 Betta Electrical / Breakfree Resorts Adam Macrow BA
28 Smartskip Dean Wanless AU
30 Dexion Racing Tony Evangelou BA
31 Hyundai Construction Racing Mark Porter BA
32 Dux Hot Water Aaron McGill VX
37 Betta Electrical / Breakfree Resorts Mark Howard BA
40 Peters Motorsport Wayne Wakefield AU
41 Kanga Loaders Racing Gary MacDonald BA
42 HI - Trans Jay Verdnik VY
56 Messertech John Henderson AU
60 Decina Racing Warren Luff BA
62 Motor One Finance Scott Loadsman VX
65 Doric Racing Phillip Scifleet AU
66 Rod Lynch Motorsport AU
68 Shane Beikoff Racing Shane Beikoff AU
71 Gatorz Racing Dean Canto BA
80 Peters Motorsport Mark Papendell VX
81 Summit / Jax Racing Grant Denyer BA
86 Fujitsu Greg Smith AU
91 Peters Motorsport Gary Deane AU
98 MacArthur Fleet Service Grant Elliott VX
99 Tony D'Alberto Racing Tony D'Alberto VY

Supports are the 2nd Round of the Utes, Performance Cars, Saloon Cars and Aussie Racers. Commodore Cup rounds out the program.
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Old 13 May 2005, 11:44 (Ref:1299828)   #4
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I wouldn't say it's too disappointing, quite a bit happened at Clipsal so don't see why a little action wouldn't happen down at Wakefield, especially with the reverse grid back this round. The majority of the categories typify what real racing is, and it'll be a refreshing change to be at a track without the hype that's generated around the main game Supercars. Bring it on I say! (Let's just pray it doesn't rain cuz there ain't much shelter for us down there!)
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Old 13 May 2005, 12:18 (Ref:1299848)   #5
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TSR has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
Herd that the gate price for Sunday was $35 for an adult, I think that is a pretty reasonable price for the action for a track like Wakefeild.
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Old 13 May 2005, 15:21 (Ref:1299994)   #6
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$35 for a development round. That is huge

The performance cars should be alright, if anything the development guys should be supporting them, as they will the category to watch over the weekend.
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Qualifying Here

Mr Canto quickest from Mr Macrow... with the lone Holden contender at the title in Mr D'Alberto 3rd...

Top 10 cars covered by a little over one second... pretty tight for a HPDC/Konica grid..

Interesting however is the lack of Mr Wakefield at the circuit bearing his name
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Old 14 May 2005, 08:00 (Ref:1300541)   #8
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$35 for a development round. That is huge

The performance cars should be alright, if anything the development guys should be supporting them, as they will the category to watch over the weekend.


I'll pay $35 for a bag of whatever you on if you think that is the case. The development series ain't strong but neither is 19 perfromance cars.

DRT I support your push for a diversification of Australian Motorsport interest but you do yourself no favours with statements such as this. More of every class would be great I think the legends have around 40 entrants this weekend.

The baseline of motorsports in Australia is that we are now lacking affordable creditable classes. With the development series costing 150K to run and up to 400K+ to win, CC 300 for a car and 300ish to run, Utes 150 to start and another 120+ to run and some formula ford guys spending close to 180k for a season, aussies seem affordable but not yet a credible breeding ground.

The APCC lacks depth of emerging driver talent to be seen as an alternative at this stage.

Support the category, build the category, but keep it real my brother!
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Old 14 May 2005, 08:45 (Ref:1300563)   #9
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Support catergories look the goods with Commodore Cup which boast good close racing, whicj is growing every year. V8 Utes, good racing with some biff and barge. saloon Cars and Aussie Racing Cars with the Australian Performance Car Championship. It should be a great day. I am heading Down there. Hope the rain does hold off for most of the day, cause i went down there last year and the rain provided some good racing in all catergories, especially one incident where Christian D'Agostin had a spin on the warm upo lap.

Anyway should be a good day of racing.
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Dont knock Wakefield, great viewing, racing and so what if the weather sucks, i'll still be there!
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Which one, the racetrack or Wayne?
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I wouldn't say it's too disappointing,
The numbers are VERY disappointing. A huge drop from what it was last year.

RACE 1 RESULTS from V8 Website
1 71 Gatorz Racing Dean Canto Ford Falcon BA 17 17:22.3733 8 1:00.4598
2 60 Decina Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 17 17:25.4373 5 1:00.7044
3 99 Tony D'Alberto Racing Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VY 17 17:34.1802 8 1:01.0306
4 41 Kanga Loaders Racing Gary MacDonald Ford Falcon BA 17 17:36.1166 12 1:01.2654
5 27 Betta Electrical/Breakfree Res Adam Macrow Ford Falcon BA 17 17:38.5290 10 1:01.2862
6 31 Hyundai Construction Racing Mark Porter Ford Falcon BA 17 17:39.3345 13 1:01.2694
7 65 Doric Racing Phillip Scifleet Ford Falcon AU 17 17:46.2871 11 1:01.6778
8 19 Brad Jones Racing Dale Brede Ford Falcon AU 17 17:46.3833 13 1:01.7996
9 42 Hi-Trans Jay Verdnik Holden Commodore VY 17 17:47.1295 6 1:01.7969
10 26 Fujitsu Racing Jose Fernandez Ford Falcon BA 17 17:55.5527 12 1:01.8135
11 98 MacArthur Fleet Service Grant Elliott Holden Commodore VX 17 17:58.6359 10 1:02.1083
12 81 Summit/Jax Racing Grant Denyer Ford Falcon BA 17 17:59.8940 12 1:01.1507
13 30 Dexion Racing Tony Evangelou Ford Falcon BA 17 18:02.0393 14 1:02.5586
14 28 Smartskip Dean Wanless Ford Falcon AU 17 18:02.8400 11 1:02.4696
15 37 Betta Electrical/Breakfree Res Mark Howard Ford Falcon BA 17 18:07.4729 7 1:01.8420
16 56 Messertech John Henderson Ford Falcon AU 17 18:10.3987 16 1:02.3819
17 32 Dux Hotwater Aaron McGill Holden Commodore VX 17 18:11.8024 13 1:02.1586
18 40 Peters Motorsport Mark Papendell Ford Falcon AU 17 18:14.0618 6 1:02.6332
19 62 Motor One Finance Scott Loadsman Holden Commodore VX 17 18:16.9284 16 1:03.0016
20 68 Shane Beikoff Racing Shane Beikoff Ford Falcon AU 17 18:18.5876 4 1:02.3702
21 86 Fujitsu Greg Smith Ford Falcon AU 16 17:40.5612 13 1:03.7667
22 80 Peters Motorsport Barry Tanton Ford Falcon AU 16 18:11.3450 16 1:04.4209
23 57 Jim Beam Racing/JPS Automotive Dean Savage Holden Commodore VX 15 17:30.8915 15 1:05.2794
DNF 91 Peters Motorsport Gary Deane Ford Falcon AU 1 1:18.6068 1 1:18.6068

RACE 2 RESULTS (I assume this was the Reverse Grid race with Beikoff winning, even though there's an N next to the Reverse Grid section in the results)
1 68 Shane Beikoff Racing Shane Beikoff Ford Falcon AU 14 14:44.3354 7 1:02.1974
2 32 Dux Hotwater Aaron McGill Holden Commodore VX 14 14:49.4618 9 1:02.7381
3 28 Smartskip Dean Wanless Ford Falcon AU 14 14:49.7205 10 1:01.8951
4 19 Brad Jones Racing Dale Brede Ford Falcon AU 14 14:50.3645 9 1:01.5229
5 56 Messertech John Henderson Ford Falcon AU 14 14:53.9755 13 1:02.4687
6 27 Betta Electrical/Breakfree Res Adam Macrow Ford Falcon BA 14 14:54.5672 10 1:01.6601
7 30 Dexion Racing Tony Evangelou Ford Falcon BA 14 14:54.8686 9 1:02.2529
8 60 Decina Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 14 14:55.7560 14 1:01.3538
9 31 Hyundai Construction Racing Mark Porter Ford Falcon BA 14 14:59.8518 6 1:01.9244
10 41 Kanga Loaders Racing Gary MacDonald Ford Falcon BA 14 15:00.1519 8 1:02.0409
11 81 Summit/Jax Racing Grant Denyer Ford Falcon BA 14 15:00.7173 8 1:02.1245
12 65 Doric Racing Phillip Scifleet Ford Falcon AU 14 15:03.7542 8 1:02.2348
13 37 Betta Electrical/Breakfree Res Mark Howard Ford Falcon BA 14 15:04.2294 12 1:02.2233
14 98 MacArthur Fleet Service Grant Elliott Holden Commodore VX 14 15:04.5727 10 1:02.3179
15 91 Peters Motorsport Gary Deane Ford Falcon AU 14 15:07.3206 12 1:02.7130
16 26 Fujitsu Racing Jose Fernandez Ford Falcon BA 14 15:09.1824 12 1:02.4211
17 40 Peters Motorsport Mark Papendell Ford Falcon AU 14 15:11.1418 8 1:03.1065
18 86 Fujitsu Greg Smith Ford Falcon AU 14 15:24.8881 8 1:03.8897
19 99 Tony D'Alberto Racing Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VY 14 15:28.4825 12 1:02.0741
20 80 Peters Motorsport Barry Tanton Ford Falcon AU 14 15:30.5080 6 1:04.5291
21 57 Jim Beam Racing/JPS Automotive Dean Savage Holden Commodore VX 14 15:46.3084 9 1:05.2661

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Not sure what happened to Mr D'Alberto, looks like a drive thru...

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Mr Macrow did well

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Why isnt canto in either race 2 or 3?
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Jay Verdnik is missing also from both races...
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On The Supercar site Here suggests that Mr Canto hit a stalled Mr Verdnik....
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How do the Utes manage to cost hundreds of thousands!? That's very shocking.

They are supposed to be near-standard right? they run on road tyres don't they? How do they cost that much!? Mostly astronomic entry fees? Do they replace every part between every round or something?
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How do the Utes manage to cost hundreds of thousands!? That's very shocking.

They are supposed to be near-standard right? they run on road tyres don't they? How do they cost that much!? Mostly astronomic entry fees? Do they replace every part between every round or something?
From the mouth of a former frontrunner in the class... a season in Utes costs around $100k to do it properly, with entry fees, preparation, travel etc included... the costs go thru the roof when you start to bang them around.. and there are few Utes running around that dont cop a hit or seven at some point over the course of the weekend.

Major Major Sausages obviously cost a lot more too.....
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He WebberWDC man.

The main start costs is the "franchise" or shareholding in the company that seems to cost 100k plus the car only 50k. I am informed that the cost to run is the same as GTR points out above. 100k plus damage that was the basis of my 120K.

The think is that even thought the 100k is a franchise which may retain its value and be sold, it is still a barrier to entry. Some (read most) folks just dont have a lazy 100k lying around.
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TSR has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
It is a fantasic class he ute's, but it is by far way to expensive for what it is.
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True enough TSR, but like their Aussie Racing Car counterparts, it is difficult to get thru a whole weekend of practice/qualifying/racing without crashes, red flags or other stoppages ruining procedures.

It seems Mr Zukanovic and his father are the whiz's at getting seemingly dead Utes back to life... the crash Mr Luff endured at Adelaide should have seen that vehicle consigned to Simsmetal, but they fixed it, and its as good as it was before.... (although the wallet would be several thousand dollars lighter in terms of manpower and resource costs...)
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At least with the Fords, it's an awful lot easier to fix the back clip on them than the Holdens...
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I wouldnt call the utes expensive to run, they are on the Avesco calander, TV is not bad, and it cost a driver an average of $15g to turn up with his helmet and suit and drive the thing.
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