Queensland Events Secured Til 2016

[GTRMagic]

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Seems that Mr Warburton has managed to secure this deal for each of Townsville, Queensland Raceway and Gold Coast Indy.

Nicely done, maintaining the base of circuits critical to the championship.

[hdt05]

Fingers crossed he can now work his magic on Sydney

A good start to his reign.

[peckstar]

Surely this is incorrect, the wisdom on here said it wouldnt happen. will add the same wisdom as told us there wouldnt be a 3rd (or 4th or 5th) manufacturer

Good news for the series. will be interesting to see how they improve the GC round

[Mixer]

He seems like a steady hand so far, good news to get Indy locked in, that looked shaky.

QLD is a seriously important market for V8s so this is definitely good news.

[D.R.T.]

Interesting to see what the freshen up is for the Gold Coast is, as discussed in the article.

Can they get Indycar back or another category as its been proven over the last couple of years that the current format doesnt work.

HDT05 - as for the Homebush event, lets hope not. That event has been even more of a flop against its pre event objectives than the Gold Coast.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by hdt05

Fingers crossed he can now work his magic on Sydney

A good start to his reign.

Discussion is still going on apparently... not sure when they will be in a position to announce one way or another... perhaps at Bathurst time, when the other NSW-assisted V8Supercar event takes centre stage

[Average Punter]

Isn't it more than a little sad that our sport has become so dependent on $$$$$$$ from Government?

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Average Punter

Isn't it more than a little sad that our sport has become so dependent on $$$$$$$ from Government?

hasnt this made it less dependant?

everysport is dependant on government dollars.

think about your local football team, played on a government developed ground.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by Average Punter

Isn't it more than a little sad that our sport has become so dependent on $$$$$$$ from Government?

have you seen how much $$$ the Government puts into cricket, football, hockey, arts?

The government puts on events all the time. I think at least the events I care about are getting their share.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Average Punter

Isn't it more than a little sad that our sport has become so dependent on $$$$$$$ from Government?

hasnt this made it less dependant?

every sport is dependant on government dollars.

think about your local football team, played on a government developed ground.

my aussie rules club just received a $1.9 million grant to redevelop the playing surface.

The australian olympic team tens of millions to develop the team and its members

my local soccer ground just got 90k for drainage

my local tennis netball club 200k for resurfacing

Goverment money funds sport. always will. its part of why we pay taxes

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

hasnt this made it less dependant?

everysport is dependant on government dollars.

think about your local football team, played on a government developed ground.

Every sport is dependent yes. As such CAMS recieves money from the ASC, as does Cricket Australia, Hockey Australia etc etc.

V8SC is not the sport but a profit orientated motorsport category and therefore isnt consistent with with the examples you have mentioned.

[peckstar]

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Every sport is dependent yes. As such CAMS recieves money from the ASC, as does Cricket Australia, Hockey Australia etc etc.

V8SC is not the sport but a profit orientated motorsport category and therefore isnt consistent with with the examples you have mentioned.

But the government doesnt give the sport money, it gives events money. The events then spend the money on running the event

By your very own opinion the sport/business isnt making any profit anyway

Ask Dick Johnson how much profit he is getting!

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

But the government doesnt give the sport money, it gives events money. The events then spend the money on running the event

By your very own opinion the sport/business isnt making any profit anyway

Ask Dick Johnson how much profit he is getting!

It is, its just not going to the teams. How closely are you following V8SC??

In regards to the events side of things - a big problem is payments to V8 Supercar events and them running the events as a potential problem.

You look at the Gold Coast recently & the Homebush event compared to how IMG ran Gold Coast event in years gone buy and from a Government return point of view its not pretty reading.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

It is, its just not going to the teams. How closely are you following V8SC??

In regards to the events side of things - a big problem is payments to V8 Supercar events and them running the events as a potential problem.

You look at the Gold Coast recently & the Homebush event compared to how IMG ran Gold Coast event in years gone buy and from a Government return point of view its not pretty reading.

how is that a problem?

are you saying that the dont spend the money on producing the event?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Average Punter

Isn't it more than a little sad that our sport has become so dependent on $$$$$$$ from Government?

I reckon its awesome that the sport has managed to eke out business partnerships with the various governments, to inject money into providing otherwise unavailable events like Townsville, like Gold Coast Indy, like Homebush.

From a motorsport perspective, its great the money isnt going to AFL or NRL or FFA or any other sport...

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

how is that a problem?

are you saying that the dont spend the money on producing the event?

Ask yourself which events pay V8SC the biggest sanction fee

These are also the events (Bathurst and Homebush) where TC had his spray last year about needing more government funds to cover additional ambulances and fireys.

GTR - you mean business partnerships like the ones the ICAC investigation is uncovering? Or ask Archer how well some of these "business partnerships" are now when they are renegotiating them.

From a motorsport perspective - I guess thats the problem its not a motorsport perspective.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Ask yourself which events pay V8SC the biggest sanction fee

These are also the events (Bathurst and Homebush) where TC had his spray last year about needing more government funds to cover additional ambulances and fireys.

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funnily enough the ones with the biggest crowds, go figure

[FAS33]

HA! where's all the Doomsayers now? busy eating some humble pie me thinks


mmmmmmmm must taste sooooo good !

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

GTR - you mean business partnerships like the ones the ICAC investigation is uncovering? Or ask Archer how well some of these "business partnerships" are now when they are renegotiating them.

Any charges laid yet? Any convictions? No? Amazing...

[Oldtony]

I'm a motorsport fan or I probably wouldn't be contributing to this forum.
I was also involved and a keen supporter of the idea of bringing the Indy and Champ cars to the Coast way back when.
That exercise was a very different proposition to the GC600 V8SC event. It gave the Coast world wide publicity for what was then a vert Telegenic sporting event which received very good ratings in key (then) important and profitable tourism markets.
It worked. It drew local crowds and overseas visitors.
Times, and the event itself, are very different now.
The event itself is no longer of significant International interest. The TV coverage doesn't rate anywhere as well overseas, and probably not as well here in Australia. The crowd the event attracts is almost all SE Qld with little overseas content. Local business will tell you that they are not big spenders. Local residents will tell you that they are not exactly model visitors.
Bluntly the financial return the event brings, and the type of publicity it attracts are not worth the inconvenience or the money it costs.
I'm a Gold Coast rate payer and a Queensland taxpayer. While I love my motorsport the GC600, and keeping the admin at Nerang, are not worth the sort of money being spent on them while we are having so many other services cut by Council and Government.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Oldtony

I'm a motorsport fan or I probably wouldn't be contributing to this forum.
I was also involved and a keen supporter of the idea of bringing the Indy and Champ cars to the Coast way back when.
That exercise was a very different proposition to the GC600 V8SC event. It gave the Coast world wide publicity for what was then a vert Telegenic sporting event which received very good ratings in key (then) important and profitable tourism markets.
It worked. It drew local crowds and overseas visitors.
Times, and the event itself, are very different now.
The event itself is no longer of significant International interest. The TV coverage doesn't rate anywhere as well overseas, and probably not as well here in Australia. The crowd the event attracts is almost all SE Qld with little overseas content. Local business will tell you that they are not big spenders. Local residents will tell you that they are not exactly model visitors.
Bluntly the financial return the event brings, and the type of publicity it attracts are not worth the inconvenience or the money it costs.
I'm a Gold Coast rate payer and a Queensland taxpayer. While I love my motorsport the GC600, and keeping the admin at Nerang, are not worth the sort of money being spent on them while we are having so many other services cut by Council and Government.

your elected representatives think differently, maybe you dont know everything.

[fomoco]

The usual hollowers ae out there again,
footy gets more money,
this gets more
that gets more.
Yep, it is a pain, but look at it this way:

football stdium used every fotnight, 30k bums on seats, 10% of each ticket back to govt:
catering/refreshments every fortnight , 10%back to govt
local sports every weekend, gst back to govt.(12 years with junior afl, seem some nice little balances from weekend games)
so, yes that may put more there, but they get a hell of lot back.

Motorpsort, once a year, what ever the gov puts in, gets S######## back, but only once a year, just like the Golf Open, the Tennis Open etc,
so for one of events, dont complain , plus all the taxes from the casuals pay, plus indiect income from everything else, its not a bad ivestment, just that not everyone likes motosport. so do you want govts to be loose with your tax dollars, or take a sensible approach, create an event to attrack more people to spend more money.
Gotta love capitalism

[porsche91722]

Originally Posted by Oldtony

I'm a motorsport fan or I probably wouldn't be contributing to this forum.
I was also involved and a keen supporter of the idea of bringing the Indy and Champ cars to the Coast way back when.
That exercise was a very different proposition to the GC600 V8SC event. It gave the Coast world wide publicity for what was then a vert Telegenic sporting event which received very good ratings in key (then) important and profitable tourism markets.
It worked. It drew local crowds and overseas visitors.
Times, and the event itself, are very different now.
The event itself is no longer of significant International interest. The TV coverage doesn't rate anywhere as well overseas, and probably not as well here in Australia. The crowd the event attracts is almost all SE Qld with little overseas content. Local business will tell you that they are not big spenders. Local residents will tell you that they are not exactly model visitors.
Bluntly the financial return the event brings, and the type of publicity it attracts are not worth the inconvenience or the money it costs.
I'm a Gold Coast rate payer and a Queensland taxpayer. While I love my motorsport the GC600, and keeping the admin at Nerang, are not worth the sort of money being spent on them while we are having so many other services cut by Council and Government.

For the life of me, I can't work out how they got the Gold Coast 600 over the line. The race in its present form isn't setting the world on fire, the locals aren't exactly in favor of it continuing, and the Gold Coast as a tourist venue is about as popular as a shark attack, with crime levels soaring, massive traffic issues and a lack of beaches. As a motorsport fan and a Sth East Qld resident, there's no way I am even remotely interested in going to the event. Hell, I'd even go to Qld Raceway before I'd risk my life going to Surfers Paradise again. But, good on them, lets hope that the "freshen up" will be worth waiting for.

[Oldtony]

Originally Posted by peckstar

your elected representatives think differently, maybe you dont know everything.

Our "Elected representatives" are at present running for cover from attacks by the local branch of the Murdoch Press. The State Government has refused to contribute to restoration of the beaches, which bring us tourist income all year round and are under attack.
The local "Elected representatives" are only informed about the likelihood of their own re-election. And there are a lot of people locally who think this is more about seats in S and SW Brisbane than seats on the Coast that they take for granted.