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| The penalty was right or should have been worse |
   
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20 | 27.40% |
| Ralfs fault, but not penality should have applied |
  
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18 | 24.66% |
| Rubins fault, should have backed out |
  
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2 | 2.74% |
| Kimi's fault, should have backed out |
  
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| Racing incident pure and simple - the penalty is disgraceful |
  
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6 Aug 2003, 20:07 (Ref:681557)
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Right. The worst damage is for his championship... he was too busy looking ahead (like you said, to JPM) that he couldn't use the mirror... now the WDC waves bye bye.
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6 Aug 2003, 20:59 (Ref:681591)
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OK after watching it again it is Kimmi's car that caused the damage to the side of Ralfs.
But also after seeing the footage again I notice that Ralf is one of the only drivers to go so far to the outside of the turn from his side of the grid. About the only driver to go all the way across the track. |
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6 Aug 2003, 21:16 (Ref:681603)
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The impact between Kimi and Ralf.
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6 Aug 2003, 23:18 (Ref:681663)
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Ralf didn't go all the way across the track. He left more than enough room for one car outside him, namely Rubens. I am willing to bet that Ralf never saw Kimi, coming up fast outside Rubens. In fact, I wonder whether Ralf has an accurate recollection of what happened. His reported comments afterwards were ill advised, to say the least.
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7 Aug 2003, 01:47 (Ref:681702)
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 Kimi, Ralf and anyone else i don have any problem with except for Monty who is at the very bottom of my list of favs. Spot on Valve! Bon, just how many degrees of visual can Ralf see to spot Kimi closing on Rubens? |
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15 Aug 2003, 22:31 (Ref:689404)
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Sorry to come to this late..
It seems pretty simple...Ralf was not ahead of Rubens..they hit front wheel to rear wheel....Ralf cannot move over unless he's actually all the way ahead...not 3/4...not 7/8 but all the way infront...Rubens was under no obligation to brake and he sure couldn't move over...Ralf in his statements said he expected Rubens to move out of his way...how utterly crazy..... |
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16 Aug 2003, 00:44 (Ref:689481)
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That is today's F1 Strad - not like in the days from which you cull those gorgeous pictures you like to post!
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16 Aug 2003, 00:50 (Ref:689485)
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It's just a bl00dy stupid racing accident... and 8 pages were devoted to it just to apportion blame?
Maybe Ralf did not look at his mirror... but heck..even if he were to, he won't be able to see the accident coming! |
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16 Aug 2003, 03:04 (Ref:689532)
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16 Aug 2003, 04:40 (Ref:689560)
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 oh...just recently eh, well don count your chickens just yet
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