[WEC Race] 2016 Round 4 - 6hours of Nürburgring

[TF110]

Originally Posted by Articus

It's ironic how a poor choice of tire for Toyota is suddenly a valid explanation for poor performance today, but it just couldn't have been a reason for why Audi, Porsche were slow at Spa right?....

Atleast, now we all have been shown that there are too many variables at play to predict any outcome.

What are you talking about? I didn't say Toyota were only off pace because of tire choice. Don't insinuate that, please.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Chiana

AER has always been bit shady but it's a total disaster here

I'm not sure if something else can even be fit to these chassis, it took ages from Oreca to mod the AER into the existing Toyota compartment too

I can't say anything about the past but in the last 10 years AER seems to be taking the Spinal Tap/Jon Field approach to engine building. Only so long you can run it at 11 before something goes BOOM, and at least with Field it was almost always a great ride until then.

[schmidder]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

The Ford was a failure on the car, not the fueling equipment or style. The fact it was reported before the race and was still started in that condition is somewhat worrying.

Doesn't matter what system you use, if you have a non-return valve that's allowing returns, that's not going to end well for anyone.

Seems putting the hot exhaust outlet directly under the fuel inlet is a bit dangerous too. Any fuel that gets spilled during the process has a very high potential of hitting the exhaust. Routing the exhaust rearward would probably have prevented the fire too, as it started when the car was started and the corresponding hot gas was being expelled onto the fuel..just my two cents..

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[Articus]

Originally Posted by schmidder

Seems putting the hot exhaust outlet directly under the fuel inlet is a bit dangerous too. Any fuel that gets spilled during the process has a very high potential of hitting the exhaust. Routing the exhaust rearward would probably have prevented the fire too, as it started when the car was started and the corresponding hot gas was being expelled onto the fuel..just my two cents..

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That was the most eye opening part of it all for me. the fuel just dropping straight down onto the hot exhaust on the LH side. Even when everything is working that is not a good design.

[champcarman]

During the Eurosport telecast I think I heard mention of the 2017 Nurburgring WEC date already being confirmed for around July 15th. Did I hear right?

[Ephaeton]

yes you did.

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by champcarman

During the Eurosport telecast I think I heard mention of the 2017 Nurburgring WEC date already being confirmed for around July 15th. Did I hear right?

Correct, race weekend on 14-16 July 2017. http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/le-...gring-en-2017/

[Artur]

Originally Posted by gert

It was OAK who wanted the change, so they could compare Michelin and Dunlop.
OAK now also handles the 43 car with Morand gone.

Why would OAK need the #31 ESM car to evaluate that, as the #30 ESM was already shod on it? Also, Michelin P2s tires already proved on par, if not better, with the Dunlops on this year's ELMS.

My guess is that they simply thought Michelin would be better for them, which didn't seem to be the case on Nurburgring, btw.

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

It's Andre time! Never rated Fassler so let's see how fast the Audi actually is.

Originally Posted by J Jay

Oliver Jarvis loses out at the start to Timo Bernhard.

I really want him to do well, but he seems to be a little bit behind the other Audi drivers in every aspect come the race...

I also criticized both drivers before but, in the end, both were very good in this race. Great pace, consistency and no errors. I hope that continues

Attendance looked like some 20 or 30k. Even for QLF there was quite a lot of people, but the combined numbers annoys me a bit because it tries to say that ~60k were there, when it was likely just a bit more than half of that(counting the same people that attended QLF and race, twice)

[TF110]

Thats how attendance is usually counted- as a total for the weekend. Did the same last year, 60k people. There was reports of weather keeping some away so I think it's still a great number.

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by TF110

Thats how attendance is usually counted- as a total for the weekend. Did the same last year, 60k people. There was reports of weather keeping some away so I think it's still a great number.

And let's also put this into context: given current ticket sale status, the F1 race at Hockenheim is expecting a weekend crowd smaller than this, around 50-55k currently.

[Ephaeton]

Originally Posted by TheMightyM

So per S365 this is happening in 2017:

[Formula Renault V8 3.5 joins WEC at Nuerburgring (amongst others)]

Nice. I was complaining about the weak support programme this year and jokingly said, what about renault v8 3.5 or 2, that would round up the experience with some nordschleife or DTM legends/classics. Et voila, FR V8 3.5 for us next year.

[Artur]

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

And let's also put this into context: given current ticket sale status, the F1 race at Hockenheim is expecting a weekend crowd smaller than this, around 50-55k currently.

And to think Hockenheim had huge crowds back in mid 2000s......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6_baLo-AZU

[TF110]

Track layout or no Shumacher? Both? Imagine a wec race at 'old' Hockenheimring!

[Lasse]

I miss the old Hockenheim! It would be some amazing duels down the straights!

[Artur]

Originally Posted by TF110

Track layout or no Shumacher? Both? Imagine a wec race at 'old' Hockenheimring!

The absense of Schumacher might have some effect into it, but the track layout was already the current one, in 2003.

Funny, cause on DTM's final races, the grandstands are quite full at the Hockenheim.

I wonder how long untill they realise people got fed up already with the DRS/tire thing. As long as Charlie Whiting and those old fools remains there, this will not change, though, as I vividly remember an interview of Charlie saying how "people criticizing DRS are getting it wrong". On this front, WEC and SGT are doing great because they have no gimmicks and their racing is very good while F1 and DTM are artificial boring shows.

[Matt]

It's the ticket prices.

The general public that go to those races don't care about the DRS/tire thing.

[Racing Harz]

My Clip from the race:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhCT2-g4mrU
And my Pictures:
https://www.facebook.com/Motorsportb...74494675916656

[Artur]

nice video, mate. Thanks for sharing it!

[S griffin]

I love the way the World Endurance Championship and the other associated championships are going. I enjoyed the racing again at the Nurburgring. The fact that the winner of the race is never a forgone conclusion is the best thing about the series and the Ring was not an easy race for anyone who was battling for the first place

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by S griffin

I love the way the World Endurance Championship and the other associated championships are going. I enjoyed the racing again at the Nurburgring. The fact that the winner of the race is never a forgone conclusion is the best thing about the series and the Ring was not an easy race for anyone who was battling for the first place

Agreed. Love the current state of the WEC. I know everyone complains when a race is boring, but a boring WEC race holds my interest more than almost any other series. ELMS and WEC are in a brilliant state and I'm hoping AsLMS will be quite good this year too. Blancpain is also great.