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Old 30 Sep 2005, 11:18 (Ref:1420799)   #1
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How much?

Just trying to compile a list of how much a seat in professional single seater racing costs to be run by a pro team, i've done a few, anyone else fill in the blanks? I hope other people find this useful.

British:

F.ford zetec £75-120k

F.BMW £150k

F.Renault £125-175k

F3 National £250k

F3 Championship £350-500k

Renault World series £300k

GP2 £900k

F1 from £5 million upwards

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German

Italian

Spanish

Also, does anyone know the generally accepted route to the top in America?

What is the deal with A1GP and funding? anyone know?
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Old 30 Sep 2005, 11:39 (Ref:1420834)   #2
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Do you mean how much can you get a seat for, how much you can get a seat in a winning team or how much it costs? Also do you mean how much for doing a season of racing or the racing plus lots of testing to be able to win?
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Old 30 Sep 2005, 11:47 (Ref:1420840)   #3
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Costs

Basic cost for a race seat. I know testing is limitless moneywise (if the series allows it) some series have allocated test days or limited test days.

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Old 30 Sep 2005, 12:38 (Ref:1420886)   #4
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Do you mean how much can you get a seat for, how much you can get a seat in a winning team or how much it costs? Also do you mean how much for doing a season of racing or the racing plus lots of testing to be able to win?
Apparently, a formula renault seat in the TOCA tour costs from around £120k, but Lewis Hamilton's backers spent £400k when he won the championship in 2004, so I can't begin to imagine how much this years title in F3 euroseries has cost him? £500k++ He is backed by McLaren and there was interesting article in Autosport this week on his future.
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Old 30 Sep 2005, 13:14 (Ref:1420912)   #5
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Apparently, a formula renault seat in the TOCA tour costs from around £120k, but Lewis Hamilton's backers spent £400k when he won the championship in 2004, so I can't begin to imagine how much this years title in F3 euroseries has cost him? £500k++ He is backed by McLaren and there was interesting article in Autosport this week on his future.
I heard he had a new tub every 2 races in Renault but I would think he spent less than £400k? Maybe £200 - £250K?
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Old 30 Sep 2005, 13:48 (Ref:1420943)   #6
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Why? they arent going to soften that quickly
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Old 30 Sep 2005, 14:26 (Ref:1420965)   #7
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carbon fibre tubs

....a new tub every 2 races, i thik every round was a double header, so you sayin' they had a new tub every meeting??!?!?! seems a bit extreme doesn't it, as Russfled has said, the tub wouldn't wear at such a fast rate!

new set of tyres every 2 races is more believable....
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Old 30 Sep 2005, 17:03 (Ref:1421092)   #8
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The tub gets a crack around the bottom after a couple of race weekends and to do it right you have new tyres everytime the car sets off

For doing the season in a top team your prices are about right
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Old 30 Sep 2005, 22:30 (Ref:1421296)   #9
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How much is it to do one off race weekends with 2 races in FF Zetec? Do you have to pay the championship registration fee to do just one round or has the 'guest driver' thing changed things?
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Old 1 Oct 2005, 09:25 (Ref:1421496)   #10
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entry costs

in club racing, ff1600, to do a one off race you have to join the organising club eg Brscc (£145), pay the entry fee (approx £200) for the race, register for the championship (£50), some teams do car rental for about £700 a race, plus a damage deposit. if you want to do a friday test if available that will cost about £200 for the track hire, and maybe £700-£1000 to the team to run you for the test....so in total about 2500 all in with a test.....not cheap and that's just club racing.

Nationall FF Zetec, i'm guessing a double header race weekend on an arrive and drive arrangement with a team would cost about 1.5 or 2 times the club racing costs, but not sure about the championship registration and if guest drives mean not paying the full amount. I think the full reg fee is around £8000, and about £15,000 for Formula REnault on the TOCA tour. If anyone knows more about costs, please continue thread.
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Doing cheapy cheap racing can cost as little as a couple of k for a race weekend with testing and tyres. But its not how to become a racing driver.
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club racing is the only option for most people to be involved in motorsport as a driver.
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Old 2 Oct 2005, 09:51 (Ref:1421939)   #13
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A while ago a spanish f3 insider mentioned a minimum budget of 250.000 euro for a year spanish F3. German F3 (so no euro f3) is at the same level.

Imo best junior serie in the US is the atlantics, budget +- 500.000-600.000 euro if i'm not mistaken.
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Old 3 Oct 2005, 12:05 (Ref:1422719)   #14
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Just trying to compile a list of how much a seat in professional single seater racing costs to be run by a pro team, i've done a few, anyone else fill in the blanks? I hope other people find this useful.

British:

F.ford zetec £75-120k

F.BMW £150k

F.Renault £125-175k
These figures are true if you are determined to win the championship, but you can do it a lot cheaper.

There are people running FBMW and F Renault on budgets of < £80k.
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Old 3 Oct 2005, 12:13 (Ref:1422726)   #15
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Or you could do MSV FF1600 in 2006 for between £3000 - £5000 running yourself or £14,000 to £20,000 with a top team
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Old 4 Oct 2005, 14:28 (Ref:1423698)   #16
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Just trying to compile a list of how much a seat in professional single seater racing costs

I think you're way off the mark for World Series By Renault. I hear the numbers are midway between F3 and GP2
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Old 5 Oct 2005, 09:11 (Ref:1424260)   #17
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wsr costs.

there was an article in autocar or autosport a couple of months back, saying a season of wsr by way of an imposed fixed budget is around 450,000 Euros.
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Old 5 Oct 2005, 11:19 (Ref:1424338)   #18
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I know its not pro but its the most competitive and the best learning ground - FVee - £6k
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