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Old 22 Jan 2004, 00:23 (Ref:846195)   #26
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Wasn't Mclaren running with last year's wing (illegal for 2004) at a test a while back? It was discussed on here, but can't remember which thread it was.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 00:29 (Ref:846204)   #27
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Rumours from within Bridgestone if it aint painted red they don't want to know you take what your given. Says a lot for the prospects of anyone else getting some help to develop their car and that includes Suaber.

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Old 22 Jan 2004, 01:51 (Ref:846305)   #28
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Just added another crash to their tally . Now both testers have walled both Jordan's
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 10:39 (Ref:846619)   #29
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Thats excellent news.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 11:43 (Ref:846681)   #30
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Crashing within 6 corners of your first F1 test has to be some kind of record. Come back Erik Comas, all is forgiven.

So far it seems like McLaren have been faster than Williams, but Williams' reliability looks extremely impressive. I don't think anyone else has completed one trouble-free race simulation, let alone two. Things are very even right now, with Renault's launch having supposedly gone quite well and Ferrari waiting in the wings.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 12:07 (Ref:846704)   #31
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The fastest 2--3 car has been Williams, not McLaren. The MP4-19 has beaten the Williams once, but only with three element rear wing.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 12:16 (Ref:846712)   #32
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UPDATE 21/1/04

to add to Jordan's day

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1 tow back

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1 tow back

Ferrari

1 Tow back

again not that it means much . But busy busy Towies

apparantly Nick H will be making a apperance in a Jordan this test & Mark will be in the R5 on Thursday (Euro)

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Old 22 Jan 2004, 12:20 (Ref:846718)   #33
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Errm, Mclaren havent been at Barcelona this week have they? so how can a comparison be made.

As for Williams reliability, that must be why I keep seeing pictures of Ralf standing next to his car as its lifted onto the back of a low loader??

Times arent really that indicative at the moment due to different fuel loads, wings, setup and tyres. Will have to wait until Australia for the first REAL comparison of the season.

Sounds like Jordan are having a rough time....oopps that must hurt the wallet. Sounds like he will have to take Jos on, just for the cash.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 12:56 (Ref:846760)   #34
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As for Williams reliability, that must be why I keep seeing pictures of Ralf standing next to his car as its lifted onto the back of a low loader??
No. That's why Williams are the only team to have completed full race weekend simulations. Two of them.
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 13:00 (Ref:846761)   #35
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No. That's why Williams are the only team to have completed full race weekend simulations. Two of them.
Renualt has to .

2 tow backs over that many miles is hardly a concern
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 13:49 (Ref:846816)   #36
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Just heard from Barcelona today (Thurs) that Button has unofficially smashed the circuit record!...It was so fast the Circuit officials deleted it from the time sheets before lunch!
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 19:13 (Ref:847291)   #37
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A entire second faster than the previous best apparently... Man, that's pretty danged fast!
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 19:32 (Ref:847315)   #38
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Yep Button smashed to pieces and then stomped on them.Good to see Mark got the R5 to do better then 1.20s and it can only get faster.If all these cars that are quick now stay that way when they get to Aussie look out at turn 4 its going to be fun.

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Old 22 Jan 2004, 20:25 (Ref:847382)   #39
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shows Mark still in the R4 1.18
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Old 22 Jan 2004, 21:14 (Ref:847431)   #40
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My info R5 but that may be wrong.The times are not M.Webber
1min17.175 was his best.Also further to Button my info is he then went on for a further 10 laps posting high 1.14s to low 1.15s.

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Old 22 Jan 2004, 22:02 (Ref:847494)   #41
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Crashing within 6 corners of your first F1 test has to be some kind of record. Come back Erik Comas, all is forgiven.
Did Erik go off in his first test? Don't remember that... When was that?
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Old 23 Jan 2004, 22:02 (Ref:848758)   #42
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One site - Planet F1 has a story that says BAR were running light when they set the time.....
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Old 24 Jan 2004, 01:31 (Ref:848929)   #43
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Not true!..just low fuel...it makes more differance than people realise. JB said he could have squeezed another two tenths given another run!
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