[WEC] Porsche Prototype Discussion

[alexkiller8]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Indeed.

start to prepare the champagne bottle

[rich07]

Originally Posted by GT3.14

Who ran the GT3 R Hybrid? Porsche, or not, that is probably who will end running the car since it is clear they have the factory blessing.

That was an inhouse Porsche project. Correct me if Im wrong but wasnt it entered in the previous N24 under the Manthey banner. In name only Im guessing. Besides the Hybrid is a test bed for the factory so that would rule out any privateer running it.

[GT3.14]

Originally Posted by rich07

That was an inhouse Porsche project. Correct me if Im wrong but wasnt it entered in the previous N24 under the Manthey banner. In name only Im guessing. Besides the Hybrid is a test bed for the factory so that would rule out any privateer running it.

That is what I thought. I believe Manthey assisted in the VLN and N24, but not for the ILMC races at Petit Le Mans and Zhuhai where it was in an experimental class.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by GT3.14

That is what I thought. I believe Manthey assisted in the VLN and N24, but not for the ILMC races at Petit Le Mans and Zhuhai where it was in an experimental class.

Yes that would be right. Have Manthey for its vast experience in VLN and Porsche Motorsport itself for the ILMC races where it has the experience to go alone.

[Porsche917K]

While I do believe Porsche will handle this entirely in house maybe even having Norbert Singer popping his head in I was just saying Penske runs at top class outfit, and has past relationship with Porsche. To say they couldn't succeed at Le Mans is quite ridiculous, but again this is all speculation and I have always liked Roger Penske.

[kurski]

Originally Posted by gustavobamba

What would be the main sponsor of Porsche in 2014???

Any gueses??


Martini?????
DHL????
Castrol????

Martini Racing colors would be fine and DHL used to be knows Penske/ALMS times.

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by porman

It seems like every Porsche thread turns into an argument. The deal is as follows... Porsche can do no wrong and Le Mans is the "center of the universe".



Is anyone here privy to what pieces Patrick Long was testing? The RSR can use all the help it can get and I would love to see some new pieces on it for Le Mans.

At first I was quite sure that he has just testing parts, but given what we just learned from our freindly and gracious Falken PR person, I'm no longer sure that it is'nt connected to the 991 RSR.

Originally Posted by porman

One other thing. I have been trying to get information from someone at Weissach in regards to an engine I have for over a month now. The only logical explanation for this must be that they are completely focused on their 2014 challenger. Why else would they make someone as important as myself wait.

I'm sorry to hear this. Porsche have obviously misread the level of importance you carry. Is it a Motorsport engine? .

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by GT3.14

That is what I thought. I believe Manthey assisted in the VLN and N24, but not for the ILMC races at Petit Le Mans and Zhuhai where it was in an experimental class.

Correct. Porsche used Manthey logisitcs for the race.

[porman]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

At first I was quite sure that he has just testing parts, but given what we just learned from our freindly and gracious Falken PR person, I'm no longer sure that it is'nt connected to the 991 RSR.




I'm sorry to hear this. Porsche have obviously misread the level of importance you carry. Is it a Motorsport engine? .

I thought the same thing after hearing our inside information. We are very lucky to have Falken here. I was just wishing that Porsche had found a way to extract more speed from the current RSR.

Porsche have made a gross error in neglecting me. The last time they crossed me I sent them a little present in the form of Mr. Wiedeking. Come to think of it, I only hurt myself with that one. Racing stopped and the money started rolling in.

The engine is the old TAG/Turbo.

[aneesh99]

Originally Posted by GT3.14

That is what I thought. I believe Manthey assisted in the VLN and N24, but not for the ILMC races at Petit Le Mans and Zhuhai where it was in an experimental class.

Side note here; I'm sure Porsche were ecstatic when Manthey managed inadvertently designed the next Porsche at the end of the race

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by kurski

Martini Racing colors would be fine and DHL used to be knows Penske/ALMS times.

Martini... liquor sponsor?

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by porman

It seems like every Porsche thread turns into an argument. The deal is as follows... Porsche can do no wrong and Le Mans is the "center of the universe".

No comment on the first part of that statement but I've no problem with the second.....

[deggis]

Originally Posted by Fogelhund

Martini... liquor sponsor?

What do you mean?

I agree it's stupid to expect sponsors just because they sponsored something 40 years ago, but it's not like the company and branding is totally gone from racing.

http://i.imgur.com/iTVGL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pK86v.jpg

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[gustavobamba]

Originally Posted by deggis

What do you mean?

I agree it's stupid to expect sponsors just because they sponsored something 40 years ago, but it's not like the company and branding is totally gone from racing.

http://i.imgur.com/iTVGL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pK86v.jpg

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[Rodger Davies]

pretty sure it's banned in France though, if not Italy.

[alexkiller8]

infact alcholics commercials are banned in france. In 2010 highcroft acura didn't show any patron logo.

[deggis]

Apparently, and not only in sports but also on television.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol...rship_in_sport

[Simmi]

The French need to have a word with themselves as it's denying us some great liveries and potential sponsor investment.

[Gingers4Justice]

Originally Posted by Simmi

The French need to have a word with themselves as it's denying us some great liveries and potential sponsor investment.

Absolutely.

I also think smoking is evil right up until the moment a cigarette comapny sticks its logo on a car. Gitanes should be banned from actually producing cigarettes but should be made by French law to livery at least one car at Le Mans.

[ArnageWRC]

Originally Posted by Simmi

The French need to have a word with themselves as it's denying us some great liveries and potential sponsor investment.

Yeah, agree. Surely they can keep the livery, but without the actual wording? When Wales played France a few years ago, instead of Brains, they had the word Brawn....very clever I think. Maybe instead of Martini, why not Michelin.....??? In fact, in the Aussie V8's, the Jim Beam team run as The Team in MiddleEast races - so it can be done.

Can teams afford to turn down sponsors just because of one race, now part of a World Championship???

[deggis]

Originally Posted by ArnageWRC

Yeah, agree. Surely they can keep the livery, but without the actual wording? When Wales played France a few years ago, instead of Brains, they had the word Brawn....very clever I think. Maybe instead of Martini, why not Michelin.....??? In fact, in the Aussie V8's, the Jim Beam team run as The Team in MiddleEast races - so it can be done.

http://www.autoinfection.com/wp-cont...-f1-ej10-1.jpg
http://f1.imgci.com/PICTURES/CMS/1200/1200.jpg



And of course Ferrari kept the obvious barcode (no longer so obvious) until last year and that's also when they finally dropped Marlboro from the official team name. Marlboro still remains as their sponsor.

[Dead-Eye]

Originally Posted by ArnageWRC

Can teams afford to turn down sponsors just because of one race, now part of a World Championship???

That's the wrong question. The right one is: Will a sponsor be interested if he can't be on the car at the most important race?

Answer: Nope.

[Speed-King]

Especially with an iconic livery like Martini you don't need the exact letters on the car... people will still know what the livery is representing.

[aneesh99]

I don't know who they were trying to fool by banning tobacco sponsorship (and liquor adverts in France), if they really wanted to solve the problem, they'd have enforced stricter rules on sales. Seems everytime I head past a corner shop, some chavvy 15 year old is walking out with a pack of fags...

I can't wait to get more details on the Porsche effort, I wonder how many cars who and who would fill their seats, could we expect a call up from the Porsche GTE teams assuming they want to keep driving strictly in house?

[MJones94]

Originally Posted by aneesh99

I don't know who they were trying to fool by banning tobacco sponsorship (and liquor adverts in France), if they really wanted to solve the problem, they'd have enforced stricter rules on sales. Seems everytime I head past a corner shop, some chavvy 15 year old is walking out with a pack of fags...

I can't wait to get more details on the Porsche effort, I wonder how many cars who and who would fill their seats, could we expect a call up from the Porsche GTE teams assuming they want to keep driving strictly in house?

I imagine they will have the majority of their 9 'factory' drivers in on the LMP1 project.