2018 VASC Silly Season (with POLL)

[GTRMagic]

Davison Unsure Of 2018 Ride

Originally Posted by The article

“We are still unsure, we have no plans at all for next year at this stage,” Davison told Speedcafe.com.
“There is nothing to report but I’m pretty keen to get it sorted out.

The article is kinda odd... it's like he wants to go somewhere else, hasn't gotten a deal up yet, but Tekno is an okay fallback. A fallback.. would you really want a driver in your squad that sees you as a fallback...

[Just Do It!]

[QUOTE=GTRMagic;3761487]Davison Unsure Of 2018 Ride

Originally Posted by The article

“We are still unsure, we have no plans at all for next year at this stage,” Davison told Speedcafe.com.
“There is nothing to report but I’m pretty keen to get it sorted out.
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The article is kinda odd... it's like he wants to go somewhere else, hasn't gotten a deal up yet, but Tekno is an okay fallback. A fallback.. would you really want a driver in your squad that sees you as a fallback...

Maybe the invoices for driving services are still "slightly" behind

[mayhem]

While I won't declare that I'll eat my hat if Davison is at Tekno, I'm not googling hat recipes either...

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Davison Unsure Of 2018 Ride



The article is kinda odd... it's like he wants to go somewhere else, hasn't gotten a deal up yet, but Tekno is an okay fallback. A fallback.. would you really want a driver in your squad that sees you as a fallback...

This was brought up a few weeks back, interesting to see someone like Davison in a battle to sign a contract

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by mayhem

While I won't declare that I'll eat my hat if Davison is at Tekno, I'm not googling hat recipes either...

The question becomes one of 'where next'..
The top end of town has seen the driver and 'allowed' him to move on.

Davison Bros Racing @ LDM?

[Umai Naa]

The Davison family are no strangers to running their own cars, and plenty of money kicking around at the Christmas dinner

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The question becomes one of 'where next'..
The top end of town has seen the driver and 'allowed' him to move on.

Davison Bros Racing @ LDM?

If the claims are true on GRM with 4 cars, Davison could end up there, provided he has funding big enough. Davison, Stanaway, Moffat and Tander wouldn't be a bad combination. Still rather see Richie in a Ford but odds are it isn't going to happen yet

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

The Davison family are no strangers to running their own cars, and plenty of money kicking around at the Christmas dinner

...and a rare event that they spend their own money on motorsport

[Umai Naa]

No, not directly.

[mayhem]

Maybe a direct swap for an Albury based pilot?

[Matt K]

GRM expanding to 4 cars means one more thing - that there'll be even more Holdens in the field... is it time to rename Supercars into Holden Supercars Cup?

[FPV8U]

Originally Posted by Matt K

GRM expanding to 4 cars means one more thing - that there'll be even more Holdens in the field... is it time to rename Supercars into Holden Supercars Cup?

Not if the REC's come from LDM but yes the saturation of Commodores isn't a good look for the series.

When you have teams like PRA looking at letting a young gun drive for another outfit due to team restrictions of 4 cars under one banner, yet it's ok for one manufacturer to represent 60% of the field

[Umai Naa]

There's no incentives from the teams to go to the likes of Ford.

[FPV8U]

what incentives are there for a GRM or Bjr to run Commodores?

[Umai Naa]

No reason to change.

[WatchingOn]

Interesting how everyone thinks that Stanaway is a shoe in for each and every one of the available seats for 2018, and that he automatically jumps all those drivers that have done the hard yards in the other series.

He is a good driver but so are the top half in the Dunlop field.

He won a race, so did Dumbrell x 2 and De Pasquale, Stanaway 3rd for the round and the other 2 were 2nd and 1st.

Dumbrell is super experienced and is a great benchmark for these young guys, De Pasquale is only in his 2nd year and 1st in this car.

Hazelwood had a quiet round, but is still leading the championship, had a great race 3, Jacobson and Le Brocq were thereabouts.

There are a few drivers that could move up to any of those seats

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

what incentives are there for a GRM or Bjr to run Commodores?

As a Ford person I hate saying it, but Ford in a lot of motorsports now aren't showing a lot of interest it seems. GRM and BJR are looking into a new make, so its rumoured, and GRM confirmed they were in talks with Kia. Realistically, unless Ford give some form of backing to the current two teams, no one is going to move to them, except, possibly Erebus when Commodore NG comes. For Ford to expect a Mustang they also need to back DJR and PRA, it will be a major new task compared to if they were to ask to introduce the fusion, which is very similar to the FGX and is a logical choice due to the fact they have some idea with aero

[mayhem]

Originally Posted by WatchingOn

Interesting how everyone thinks that Stanaway is a shoe in for each and every one of the available seats for 2018, and that he automatically jumps all those drivers that have done the hard yards in the other series.

He is a good driver but so are the top half in the Dunlop field.

He won a race, so did Dumbrell x 2 and De Pasquale, Stanaway 3rd for the round and the other 2 were 2nd and 1st.

Dumbrell is super experienced and is a great benchmark for these young guys, De Pasquale is only in his 2nd year and 1st in this car.


There are a few drivers that could move up to any of those seats

If you use Paul Dumbrell as a yardstick, I'm not overly convinced there's that many in Super2 with the pedigree to step up and not get lost, particularly dependent on which team they drive for. I'd say De Pasquale shows great promise and toughened by OS experience, same can be said for Stanaway, and Hazelwood is showing what he can do in a decent piece of kit. Thats about it right now IMO, and as I said, all that would be depending on which team these blokes might drive for, I'm not sure I'd be rushing to spend a year in an LDM car.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Matt K

GRM expanding to 4 cars means one more thing - that there'll be even more Holdens in the field... is it time to rename Supercars into Holden Supercars Cup?

I would think GRM with 4 cars in the main game would be a stretch for them, engineering wise and certainly funding wise. They have 4 chassis right now, yet are still reliant on WP for an engine supply...

All could be overcome with the influx of money, and perhaps a new manufacturer.

[Umai Naa]

Originally Posted by Matt K

GRM expanding to 4 cars means one more thing - that there'll be even more Holdens in the field... is it time to rename Supercars into Holden Supercars Cup?

Where are the RECs going to come from?

I can't see the likes of PRA, DJRTP, or the Kellys selling any of theirs.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Where are the RECs going to come from?

I can't see the likes of PRA, DJRTP, or the Kellys selling any of theirs.

Unless of course someone like Mr Schwerkolt chooses a simpler option for his racing operation and they manage to source another customer (Britek, TBR..) as well

[Mixer]

Anybody bemoaning the balance of Ford vs Holden teams in Supercars only needs to think back to Ford's decision to cut support.

You just can't argue with these numbers, from the VF Commodore's total:

68% of wins by Triple Eight team
80% of wins by Triple Eight-built cars

Who would want a Falcon when we know they are finicky to set up and PRA can't even do it week in week out?

Anybody who thinks there are more Holdens for any other reason only needs to think back to how bloody good the 888 FG was in the hands of smaller teams.

[mayhem]

You're right Mixer, but in all honesty, a balance of marques might have been relevant in 2007 but I dont get why anyone really cares in 2017? The tribalism is gone, surely?

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by mayhem

If you use Paul Dumbrell as a yardstick, I'm not overly convinced there's that many in Super2 with the pedigree to step up and not get lost, particularly dependent on which team they drive for. I'd say De Pasquale shows great promise and toughened by OS experience, same can be said for Stanaway, and Hazelwood is showing what he can do in a decent piece of kit. Thats about it right now IMO, and as I said, all that would be depending on which team these blokes might drive for, I'm not sure I'd be rushing to spend a year in an LDM car.

The thing is too with Dumbrell, he wasn't an amazing talent in his solo campaign, he is one of, if not the best ENDURO driver, but wasn't any good even with a decent car as a main driver, more a mid to high midfielder, would be interesting to see the results if he came back though

[mceci1]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Anybody bemoaning the balance of Ford vs Holden teams in Supercars only needs to think back to Ford's decision to cut support.

You just can't argue with these numbers, from the VF Commodore's total:



Who would want a Falcon when we know they are finicky to set up and PRA can't even do it week in week out?

Anybody who thinks there are more Holdens for any other reason only needs to think back to how bloody good the 888 FG was in the hands of smaller teams.

Your right in the whole Ford cutting funding, however I do think its a slight bit unfair to compare the ability of the car to the team, PRA/FPR as history shows, has never been a true champion team, even with a good car, the FGX, they still struggle, 2015 showed signs of promise for us Ford fans, but as usual, PRA went back to disappointment in 2016. Again this year, one could argue still a disappointment, DJRTP have no issues with setting the car up, so that must lead one to think that it isn't the car, but the capabilities of the team. We also know how much they chop and change engineer line ups compared to DJR, Triple 8's constant line up. The FG no doubt, wasn't the best car aero wise, but its predecessors were a dominant force.