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23 Jan 2017, 20:48 (Ref:3704569) | #51 | |||
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Indeed, the last time I actually watched an FI car in action was at Brands, in 1994; accidentally... I had an appointment with my specialist Doc in West Kingsdowne and whilst waiting, his receptionist's daughter (who then worked for the circuit) called Mum to inform her Mansell had flown back from his IndyCar commitments to drive in Coulthard's place as a favour for his chum Frank Williams. So after my appointment I toddled along to the circuit (It was open and free admission) to watch Nigel in action. Rent-an-Oik were there in force; the nature of the nouveau spectator was typified by a fat bloke in jeans standing in front of me, with a Team Williams trophy hat worn backwards, copious builder's crack bulging over his jeans waistband and swigging from cans of Fosters. His intellectual vacuum was demonstrated by his insistence upon screaming "Come on Nige!" whenever the Williams was transiting the top straight (Club Circuit). Rather pointless since (i) Mansell was the only car on the bloody course! and; (ii) With his ear pieces in and full helmet, then there was no chance of being heard, now was there? Well, if this is the new sparkling FI, sorry guys, you can keep it. As the old Royal Navy saying goes, "I wish you joy of it!" |
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Ah the insurance paid out - so that makes it all OK then? Possibly one of the most insensitive remarks I've ever read on ten-tenths. Growing up in Heathrow's shadow, many of my friends worked in aviation including three in London ATC and two as pilots. The only good that came out of GH's crash was that it was quoted for many years as a classic example of why pilots must never allow get-home-itis to cloud their judgement. As a child of the sixties GH was one of my heroes, waving the flag for Britain, larger than life, jolly good fellow, all that stuff. But once i learnt the truth about that night it all changed for me. I'll say no more. |
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It seems that Bernie will no longer at the center of F1 maybe not the periphery, he has even suggested that he might be able to afford to attend a GP. Does that mean he will no longer have one of his famous passes?
He might become Honorary President (any organizations that I have been involved with that used Honorary in the title meant it was unpaid) but Bernie did not seem too impressed. So it looks like Bernie is leaving F1 and not in box which is a surprise but then he knows where all the skeletons are buried so I expect some to appear over the next year or so. http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ec...-of-f1-868019/ http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127858 Who would have said a year ago that Bernie and Ron Dennis would be out of F1 in a year yet both alive? |
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Quite happy with Ross Brawn getting a spot on the sporting side of decision making. Curious what changes he'd try to push through, hopefully they're a bit more exciting than what we currently have.
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I wonder if Trump is an F1 fan. If he's not, he definitely will be! America will make F1 great again!
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For all of you getting excited at the prospect of an Ecclestone-free F1... be careful what you wish for...
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24 Jan 2017, 02:33 (Ref:3704632) | #58 | ||
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Pushing Bern to the side, if not out completely, as much as possible is a good start for the sport that has rapidly eroded over the past decade, imho.
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http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127859 Ross Brawn returns to F1 and is named managing director, motorsports by Liberty. http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127860 |
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"How do you know that today's F1 is not as good as it was in the olden days, if you don't watch it?" I have watched/followed F1 fairly religiously for the past 35 - 40 years. Some of the races were good, some were boring and some were excellent. All seasons have had something to keep me coming back. |
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I have followed it since the 50's and look forward to every season. Obviously each era has strengths and weaknesses and we must move on. Historic racing is an opportunity to see what the differences are and perhaps I lack something or am easily pleased by continuing to watch, albeit mostly on TV. We shall see what the changes bring but to do so we must watch. |
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24 Jan 2017, 09:25 (Ref:3704699) | #64 | |||
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Massive crash at the end of lap one. All rather silly. I was also at Brands in 1971 for the World Championship Victory Race; so very sadly Seppi (Jo Siffert) was killed. I was standing immediately opposite the site (Strangely enough, next to Jenks). Some time later, I was enjoying a pint and a chat in my motor sport club's bar with a senior member who was also at that time a member of the RAC Competitions Committee, who had the onerous task of considering Siffert's accident and the Post Mortem results. He told me all about it. Very sad and unnecessary fatality. Perhaps for myself, Jonesy Boy (Alan Jones) stating the reason he retired was "There is no way I am gonna ******* risk my life to drive a turbocharged go-kart with my arse one inch off the ground, Mate!" The sliding skirt era was perhaps the crux of the insanity of motor racing being driven by technology; and sponsor's large wallets. And carnage. Guess who led the charge? "By 1980 escalating cornering speeds was becoming a real concern. It was the focal point of a furious dispute between the governing body FISA, typically supported by the manufacturer teams Ferrari, Renault and Alfa Romeo, and the constructors’ association FOCA, led by Brabham boss Bernie Ecclestone." Good analysis Here: A small little known tale: Chunky (Chapman) at one time dreamed up his vision of the ultimate monoposto racing car. It would have a very flat engine/transmission and the driver would lie flat out facing forward, operating the pedals at the rear. The wind resistance would be very low. He apparently floated this Daliesque insanity past the regulators who sort of told him to see a shrink! I wonder just how many "F1 Enthusiasts" regularly attend meetings: following the circus all around the globe? Very few I posit. Watch in on the box, mostly, I suggest. Today, can actual spectators visit the paddock? Mingle with the drivers and teams? Properly participate in the event? I used to; and that was real motor racing. |
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Thank you Bernie, I congratulate you on an outstanding career, time now to relax and allow Liberty Media to take us into 2017 and beyond ...
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It's going to interesting seeing how F1 develops under Liberty ownership with Bernie in a back seat (or should that be the boot or trunk in America).
I suspect we will start to see changes in how things happen in the near future. A few that are currently on the horizon are the renewal of team contracts, only Renault has a contract beyond 2020. Silverstone and how the new rules for 2017 will work out as they are likely to lead to less overtaking. |
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Graham almost certainly made an error of judgement which definitely had tragic consequences. But it doesn't diminish his stature in the history of the sport. |
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I wish I had the opportunity to watch racing back then but at times, I'm glad I didn't. I've watched on the box since 90s. Does this make me any less of a fan if I could go to every race around the world? The exclusivity of the sport can make it more appealing and I cannot imagine the logistical and security nightmare of allowing everyone into the paddock. As for safety pioneers and Bern.... ↓this X2 |
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24 Jan 2017, 12:45 (Ref:3704745) | #69 | ||
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I hope he lives to 110 and is successful in whatever non-motorsport related activity he decides to partake in.
But in respect to his professional responsibilities pertaining to F1? It's a "good riddance" from me. |
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Now he has a bit more time on his hands he might like to buy Manor. If he was a bit mischievous he could then take up Liberty's share offer to the teams.Why,they might even elect him to do the negotiating for all the teams. Could be fun.
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24 Jan 2017, 15:26 (Ref:3704768) | #72 | |
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Wait a minute, I've heard this sort of malarkey before...
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24 Jan 2017, 16:21 (Ref:3704775) | #73 | |||
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Racer has an article out on Bernie being kicked to the curb, including statements Chase Carey made to the BBC:
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he is certainly saying all the right things...thats what makes me nervous (and also a cynic)!
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24 Jan 2017, 17:00 (Ref:3704783) | #75 | |
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An awful lot of haters on here.Before BE took up the mantle,F1 was a part time sport.One of my mates worked for Brabham every season,all he got was his food,& x's,then BE asked for all the mechanics toolboxes,to spray them team colours,they refused,so BE took the gamble,bought all new kit,& branded it all Parmalat,& Brabham started making money.BE applied the same thinking to the TV rights,& they all started making money,so ,without Bernie,there would be no F1 as we know it.
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