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Old 26 May 2010, 08:15 (Ref:2698375)   #1
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Fangio's last race

You may think that Fangio had his last race in 1958, shortly before he announced his retirement, but add on another 20 years and see him in action at Sandown Park in Australia. It may have been billed as a demonstration, but he and Sir Jack Brabham were not hanging around.

Mods, if you want to move this thread, that's fine, but I thought it should at least start here, just out of respect for two fine old racers who between them collected eight World titles.

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Old 26 May 2010, 08:17 (Ref:2698376)   #2
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Ahhh I want to see this, but i'm at work! (Facebook well and truly blocked)

How old were they both?

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Old 26 May 2010, 08:18 (Ref:2698378)   #3
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Here's a youtube link.
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Old 26 May 2010, 08:32 (Ref:2698384)   #4
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Ahhh I want to see this, but i'm at work! (Facebook well and truly blocked)

How old were they both?

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Sorry, my fault, I meant to give you the YouTube link.

Fangio would have been 67 and Brabham 52.

Two more links for you. Fangio and Brabham.
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Old 26 May 2010, 08:54 (Ref:2698400)   #5
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That's so cool lol

Erm, they've also completely blocked YouTube... :/

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Old 26 May 2010, 09:31 (Ref:2698412)   #6
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Amazing video! They really were going for it. I hope those spectators know how lucky they were...
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Old 26 May 2010, 09:41 (Ref:2698417)   #7
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Wow! that's amazing l've never seen that footage before, l don't live far from Sandown l had no idea Fangio had graced the track.
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Old 26 May 2010, 12:40 (Ref:2698531)   #8
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Old 26 May 2010, 12:43 (Ref:2698532)   #9
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I can't view this due to Selby-esque net restrictions but I look forward to doing so when I get in.
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Old 26 May 2010, 12:50 (Ref:2698540)   #10
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I can't view this due to Selby-esque net restrictions but I look forward to doing so when I get in.
lmao I just caught that first bit....

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Old 26 May 2010, 17:07 (Ref:2698697)   #11
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Fangio is recognised as one of the greats. But where does Brabham rank? Despite being 3 times WDC he never appears to get the credit he deserves. Any reasons for this? Could it be his gruff personality never lent him to the press and media?
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Old 26 May 2010, 17:37 (Ref:2698713)   #12
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Five world championships... these days we cannot put one single driver from Argentina in F1
That happens in a country with 3 splited Formula Renault series (none of them with half decent grids) without F3 and without a fast, light and powerful sportcars series... then sponsors centered in local series tin tops... that sums it all I think.

Back on topic, a little demonstration with speed and you can see how they were willing to race again... what a great video!
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Old 26 May 2010, 18:29 (Ref:2698741)   #13
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Those cars are cool.
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Old 26 May 2010, 22:04 (Ref:2698881)   #14
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I think that article about Brabham by Gerald Donaldson gives quite a few clues. The press and the media weren't around to anything like the same extent, but Sir Jack always came across as rather dour and taciturn.

So far as the video is concerned, Fangio had it made because it was like winding the clock back 23 years to when he raced that car. Almost uncanny. Charisma and nostalgia everywhere.
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Im sure you'll tell us.
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What fantastic footage. I watched this when I got in. A real treat. Very surreal seeing those cars in full colour/decent quality. Fangio just looked, the same!

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Old 27 May 2010, 08:23 (Ref:2699072)   #17
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I'm being serious. Piquet is similar in that 3 times champion but little grace as a man. I've never heard bad reports about Brabham, but then he was before my time.
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Seen this a few times, I dont really think Jack was giving it the berries, but Fangio certainly was!

I think he did Panermicana didnt he aswell?

Anyway onto Black Jack. He was like Hulme in many ways, and also like a few Aussies. He was just doing his job!! His job was winning races and championships and he did it jolly well, for very many years! Maybe he had car advantages in early yeras in teh Cooper but nevertheless.

He raced for a long time and won races over a huge timespan. Australia's best, no doubt.

As for Piquet, I loved him when I was a kid, he was fun, talented and always had a nice girl, all the things you love when a young fan. I guess over in the UK his antipathy towards Mansell was why he was disliked. But then our Nige is not exactly a saint! He showed class doing well in an underpowered Lotus and for Benetton later on, that is why he would always be a top 10 best ever man.
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Piquet made a few off-colour remarks in the press about Senna (being gay) and Mansell (having an unattractive wife) but on the whole I think he was reasonably well liked. Apparently his mechanics at Brabham adored him. Sir Frank described him as very laid back with an odd sense of humour. Like Raikkonen he was able to sleep just before the start of a race. Wish I was so chilled.
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Thanks for the heads-up on this footage, strider. Good quality video, lovely engine sounds, two F1 titans going for it, and as Dan Selby says, odd to see those cars in action in colour.
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As relatively young F1 fan, it's great to be able to see things like this. Really good video. Thanks.
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Seen this a few times, I dont really think Jack was giving it the berries, but Fangio certainly was!

I think he did Panermicana didnt he aswell?
Fangio won the 1953 Carrera Panamericana with a Lancia D24, indeed.
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Just brilliant. Trying or not the pair of them demonstrated how good the Merc was and how much had changed in the intervening years. Thanks for that.
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