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Old 18 Jan 2016, 12:31 (Ref:3605917)   #251
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They won't be doubling up, if it ever happens.
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Old 18 Jan 2016, 14:01 (Ref:3605935)   #252
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If there is ever such a seismic shift in local racing that isn't GT racing I suspect the British style might be more easy to fund.
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Old 21 Jan 2016, 09:37 (Ref:3606799)   #253
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I can't wait for the 2030 V8Supercar title when the Commodore VFII wins its 15th title straight under Gen2 rules.
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Old 29 Jan 2016, 00:32 (Ref:3608920)   #254
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Let the back pedalling commence!!!

Possibility of delaying Gen2 a year, maybe two.

Supercars Gen2 test mule already delayed. Missed it's two scheduled race meets.

What is going on at Supercars HQ?????
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Old 29 Jan 2016, 00:36 (Ref:3608921)   #255
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Link to article that compromised is talking about
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Old 29 Jan 2016, 05:13 (Ref:3608963)   #256
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Let the back pedalling commence!!!

Possibility of delaying Gen2 a year, maybe two.

Supercars Gen2 test mule already delayed. Missed it's two scheduled race meets.

What is going on at Supercars HQ?????
I'd say it's just code for "no new manufacturers are interested yet"
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Old 29 Jan 2016, 06:48 (Ref:3608971)   #257
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If Volvo and Nissan stick around, maybe they'll change engines, possibly bodywork. I can't see Ford or Holden doing anything at least for another couple of years.
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Old 29 Jan 2016, 21:22 (Ref:3609145)   #258
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I'd say it's just code for "no new manufacturers are interested yet"
Raises a few questions though doesn't it? Ostensibly, the delay has a lot to do with lack of manufacturer interest. Now, I'm just a simple tradesman, but when undertaking something as large as Gen2, which is essentially meant to be new manufacturer bait, wouldn't you go to the manufacturers first and find out what would get them racing (if anything) and then base your new rules around that? At the moment it seems like they just assumed two doors and turbos would blow everyone away and now that it really hasn't we hear talk of delays of test mules and rule sets (great look for a category asking people to invest millions) and Gen3 discussions already (with Gen2 only a pipe dream at present).

And people think Foxtel is the problem...
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Old 29 Jan 2016, 21:49 (Ref:3609147)   #259
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I wonder if the Foxtel contract has stipulations on grid sizes/diversity?
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Old 30 Jan 2016, 00:31 (Ref:3609174)   #260
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Raises a few questions though doesn't it? Ostensibly, the delay has a lot to do with lack of manufacturer interest. Now, I'm just a simple tradesman, but when undertaking something as large as Gen2, which is essentially meant to be new manufacturer bait, wouldn't you go to the manufacturers first and find out what would get them racing (if anything) and then base your new rules around that? At the moment it seems like they just assumed two doors and turbos would blow everyone away and now that it really hasn't we hear talk of delays of test mules and rule sets (great look for a category asking people to invest millions) and Gen3 discussions already (with Gen2 only a pipe dream at present).

And people think Foxtel is the problem...
yeah i would, and so did v8 supercars, many press releases about it,
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Old 30 Jan 2016, 05:46 (Ref:3609189)   #261
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yeah i would, and so did v8 supercars, many press releases about it,
Ah so rather than ignorance of the situation it just a simple case of talking to the manufacturers, gathering relevant information (press releases too, oh my!) and yet still having the incompetence to stuff it up.

Once again, thanks for the inside scoop super slueth
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Old 30 Jan 2016, 05:59 (Ref:3609190)   #262
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Ah so rather than ignorance of the situation it just a simple case of talking to the manufacturers, gathering relevant information (press releases too, oh my!) and yet still having the incompetence to stuff it up.

Once again, thanks for the inside scoop super slueth
Well as you said, you're just a simple tradesman.

Have they stuffed it up? Remains to be seen
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Old 31 Jan 2016, 10:59 (Ref:3609884)   #263
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Have they stuffed it up? Remains to be seen
Hasn't Warburton confirmed they are running behind schedule and the timeline out?
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Old 31 Jan 2016, 20:39 (Ref:3610284)   #264
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Hasn't Warburton confirmed they are running behind schedule and the timeline out?
is that a stuff up though? or just a change of plans?
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Old 31 Jan 2016, 20:52 (Ref:3610290)   #265
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Perhaps we can just put it down to a significant oversight?
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Old 31 Jan 2016, 23:10 (Ref:3610343)   #266
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Considering they took the 'V8' out of 'V8Supercars' in anticipation of new powerplants and manufacturers, its definitely significantly something...
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Old 31 Jan 2016, 23:16 (Ref:3610345)   #267
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Considering they took the 'V8' out of 'V8Supercars' in anticipation of new powerplants and manufacturers, its definitely significantly something...
Seeing how they havent taken the "v8" out of "v8 supercars" I guess its significantly nothing

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Old 1 Feb 2016, 00:15 (Ref:3610357)   #268
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Seeing how they havent taken the "v8" out of "v8 supercars" I guess its significantly nothing

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For once we agree - Gen2 is significantly nothing. The manufactures seem to think so too
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sorry , What do you base that comment on? Nothing
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Seeing how they havent taken the "v8" out of "v8 supercars" I guess its significantly nothing

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They did in their logo. To much self generated fanfair. To celebrate Gen 2. Which has been received with zero fanfair.

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/c...cars-strategy/
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sorry , What do you base that comment on? Nothing
Nothing is right.

No new manufactures for Gen2.

No sign of supercars test mule anywhere.

No date for Gen2 start.

No solid news on any team actually running anything Gen2.

That's a whole lot of nothing.
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They did in their logo. To much self generated fanfair. To celebrate Gen 2. Which has been received with zero fanfair.

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/c...cars-strategy/
agreed, but all these negative comments are based on an article that suggest they may delay it a year, Thats hardly a failure/stuff up/significant issue. just a timing change.

As for the logo, well so what, they changed the logo, no big deal at all
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'All these negative comments' aren't just from one article, they are the culmination of a bunch of recent articles where they have cited Ford (not interested), Nissan and Volvo (complete uncertainty about the future in the category) and V8 Supercars (or is that just Supercars these days?) stating that their Gen 2 project is at the very least delayed and already talking about Gen 3.

It was a big enough deal to tell the world via press release about their logo.
It was a big enough deal to drop the 'V8' from it in preparation for Gen 2 and the anticipated new and old marques that would embrace it in 2017 (currently sitting at zero and holding steady).
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As for the logo, well so what, they changed the logo, no big deal at all
V8 Supercars/Supercars made a big deal out of it themselves!!
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Gen 2 powerplant delayed AGAIN

This V6 engine is the Loch Ness Monster of motorsport.
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