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Old 22 Feb 2018, 08:13 (Ref:3803081)   #101
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exactly, I believe Aragon is the first time the ginetta has seen a dry circuit from what the DSC article says.......and am I allowed to say it sounds like a mickey-mouse circuit with lap times around the 1min 20 sec region, its hardly Spa or LeMans.

Also on test days people do all sorts of silly things to psyche each other out such as running low weight, pumping the engine up, or even sand bagging with extra weight to go slower......the only real times that matter are qualifying.......but even then people may not want to go too fast as they may get BOP'd
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Old 22 Feb 2018, 08:42 (Ref:3803085)   #102
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....and am I allowed to say it sounds like a mickey-mouse circuit with lap times around the 1min 20 sec region, its hardly Spa or LeMans.
It clearly has characteristics the teams find useful/relevant for testing, including that 1km straight. All the manufacturers have used it for testing, so I guess it ticks a lot of boxes.
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Old 22 Feb 2018, 12:30 (Ref:3803132)   #103
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exactly, I believe Aragon is the first time the ginetta has seen a dry circuit from what the DSC article says.......and am I allowed to say it sounds like a mickey-mouse circuit with lap times around the 1min 20 sec region, its hardly Spa or LeMans.

Also on test days people do all sorts of silly things to psyche each other out such as running low weight, pumping the engine up, or even sand bagging with extra weight to go slower......the only real times that matter are qualifying.......but even then people may not want to go too fast as they may get BOP'd
Those lap times look a bit squiffy unless they are using a shortened layout. Aragon is 5.3km long and the lap record is a 1:41 set by a Formula Renault 3.5 in 2012.
The back straight is 1.7km long.
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Old 22 Feb 2018, 13:10 (Ref:3803144)   #104
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Those lap times look a bit squiffy unless they are using a shortened layout. Aragon is 5.3km long and the lap record is a 1:41 set by a Formula Renault 3.5 in 2012.
The back straight is 1.7km long.
From the videos it seems they are using the 5km version with the long left hander instead of the hairpin.
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Old 22 Feb 2018, 13:51 (Ref:3803155)   #105
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From the videos it seems they are using the 5km version with the long left hander instead of the hairpin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad...C3%B3n_FIM.svg

layout should be this, but with the almost 2km long straight from t10 to 16.
I did some simulation using my modded gtr2.
I took a 2017 low drag dallara, set 840kg + 80kg min. weight, AER P60 specs (650Nm for most of rpm range, 670hp max power and 8000rpm redline) and lmp1 size tires. Toyota-Porsche drivers IAlike.

Set a drag value to let the car reach 352km/h at the end of long straight and obtained these results:

Aragon best laptime: low 1.17 - 352km/h top speed

Silverstone best laptime: mid 1.40 - about 305-310km/h top speed reached at the end of hangar straight

Le mans: high 3.15 - 350km/h top speed.
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Old 22 Feb 2018, 14:05 (Ref:3803161)   #106
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad...C3%B3n_FIM.svg

layout should be this, but with the almost 2km long straight from t10 to 16.
I did some simulation using my modded gtr2.
I took a 2017 low drag dallara, set 840kg + 80kg min. weight, AER P60 specs (650Nm for most of rpm range, 670hp max power and 8000rpm redline) and lmp1 size tires. Toyota-Porsche drivers IAlike.

Set a drag value to let the car reach 352km/h at the end of long straight and obtained these results:

Aragon best laptime: low 1.17 - 352km/h top speed

Silverstone best laptime: mid 1.40 - about 305-310km/h top speed reached at the end of hangar straight

Le mans: high 3.15 - 350km/h top speed.
Nice results.
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Old 22 Feb 2018, 14:55 (Ref:3803168)   #107
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layout should be this, but with the almost 2km long straight from t10 to 16.
Ah right. The extended back straight makes a big difference.
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Old 22 Feb 2018, 15:08 (Ref:3803171)   #108
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Ah right. The extended back straight makes a big difference.
yeah, with that layout almost half of the track is flat-out, that's explained so low timelaps.
It's from years that porsche and toyota dropped paul ricard to test their LD cars at aragon.
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Old 22 Feb 2018, 22:58 (Ref:3803282)   #109
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Sure it's not just that they're further ahead in their programme? In the end, I think all three of the two car teams will be pretty even, they're all serious efforts, and I love the fact that they are all using different chassis/engine combinations. I couldn't pick a favourite this early. By the time we get to Silverstone, maybe.
I think that is the main reason they will be ahead of the other privateers. The fact that the car is already sorted (or should be) makes it easier to go after performance. The others will catch up more than likely but will it be before Le Mans, during or after? I don't have a crystal ball but I think at least BR have the early advantage. I want ByKolles to be there with them but I don't know if the car is as capable vs these brand new ones. We'll see soon!
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Apparently each day they made more than 100 laps, without major hiccups, which is good.
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Old 5 Mar 2018, 13:57 (Ref:3805921)   #111
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Sarrazin Joins SMP for WEC Super Season.

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Old 5 Mar 2018, 14:01 (Ref:3805923)   #112
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Sarrazin is a good signing for SMP. He'll bring sportscar experience that their other announced drivers lack. Plus he's the fastest man ever around Spa in a sportscar. He did a 1:53.658 in qualifying last year in the low drag Toyota. So he's still got speed.
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Old 5 Mar 2018, 19:22 (Ref:3806041)   #113
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This is rather exciting, I'm really looking forward to more of these announcements. The LMP1 field is gonna be absolutely stacked with talent next season.
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Old 5 Mar 2018, 20:50 (Ref:3806063)   #114
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Tréluyer wouldn't be a bad choice either, two anchormen instantly.
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Old 5 Mar 2018, 21:58 (Ref:3806081)   #115
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Good signing for Sarrazin and the team. Hopefully he has some more speed left in him to peddle that beauty.
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Old 27 Mar 2018, 20:00 (Ref:3811331)   #116
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Dragon Speed on course for shakedown on Friday of there Dallara BR1 Gibson.
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Old 31 Mar 2018, 06:56 (Ref:3812059)   #119
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Dragonspeed Dallara Gibson up and running.

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Dragonspeed Dallara Gibson up and running.

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Excellent, and first audio snippet of the Gibson engine. Just the R13 to hit the track now...
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Can't tell if it sounds any different to the p2 engine.
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My guess is I won't be able to make the difference with my eyes closed. I could not do it between the 3.4L (P2) and 4.5L (P1) Zytek engines back in 2009-2010, neither could I between the 7.0L (GT1) and the 5.5L (GT2) Corvette in 2010. It will be the same here.
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That's lovely, in an ugly sort of way.

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That's lovely, in an ugly sort of way.

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I think the front of the Dallara BR1 looks much better in the high downforce trim.
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