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Old 13 Dec 2017, 12:00 (Ref:3786801)   #51
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Once can only hope that Mr Heimgartner can bring some fresh ideas to the table.

Assuming he's not hobbled by politics for not being a Kelly.
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Old 13 Dec 2017, 13:13 (Ref:3786813)   #52
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Is SdS staying in the Krate for 2018?
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Old 14 Dec 2017, 00:10 (Ref:3786925)   #53
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Is SdS staying in the Krate for 2018?
One does wonder how that contract is written up...

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Old 14 Dec 2017, 00:42 (Ref:3786928)   #54
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"Yes, the car will be identical to the other 3 in specification... *wink-wink*"

In an arrangement like that, it's hard to know who's being shafted. I suspect everyone, except the bloke in the centre of it.
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Is SdS staying in the Krate for 2018?
Her last year would you think ?
or does she have full sponsorship / backing ?
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Her last year would you think ?
or does she have full sponsorship / backing ?
Wasn't it a 3-year deal (at least the SdS with Harvey Norman part)?
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Old 14 Dec 2017, 07:05 (Ref:3786963)   #57
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3 years with Supercars and HN (and partners).

Not sure how long the Kellys need to provide a car for her though.
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Old 14 Dec 2017, 10:03 (Ref:3786980)   #58
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Would love to see her in a "proven" car. Did well all year then put on an absolute clinic at Newcastle
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Old 14 Dec 2017, 13:08 (Ref:3787016)   #59
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Once can only hope that Mr Heimgartner can bring some fresh ideas to the table.
Feel sorry for him. Gets a factory drive just as there is uncertainty of future backing and off the back of a poor season for the team.
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Old 15 Dec 2017, 11:07 (Ref:3787203)   #60
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Feel sorry for him. Gets a factory drive just as there is uncertainty of future backing and off the back of a poor season for the team.
Despite perceptions of factory riches, isn't the Nissan Motorsport team on a tight budget -- explaining the "krates" (not just for the fourth car, but for instance the 4 year old Todd Kelly rocket until recently too) and general lack of development?

If they were out to win at all costs, they would be looking at the option of homologatng a GTR engine as a way to sort out their lack of horsepower IMO. But IMO I don't think they are.. I think development budget is tight.
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Old 15 Dec 2017, 12:43 (Ref:3787233)   #61
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They've certainly been very conservative.

Look at the MB and Volvo efforts. Went to the very limit, and then lobbied for more, to get those engines in the ballpark.

Erebus even threw out the big-dollar HWA-developed induction system very, very early on in the piece.
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Is there anything to be linked to the fact that Nissan aren't running at the 12 Hour either?
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Old 15 Dec 2017, 18:35 (Ref:3787298)   #63
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Is there anything to be linked to the fact that Nissan aren't running at the 12 Hour either?
Maybe Nissan is slowly getting off the ICE
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Is there anything to be linked to the fact that Nissan aren't running at the 12 Hour either?
New boss doesn't see the value in spending on motor sport?
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Is there anything to be linked to the fact that Nissan aren't running at the 12 Hour either?
It is a large spend for a single event... with no commercial backing to speak of..
..or customers lined up to but private cars..
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It is a large spend for a single event... with no commercial backing to speak of..
..or customers lined up to but private cars..
I suspect it is also ingrained in the company culture.

Nissan has never demonstrated the commitment to be successful, leaving it to local operations such as in Australia with the Bluebird and Skyline programs and the US with the likes of Electramotive.

Remember the trouble Fred Gibson had getting anything of value out of Japan?

They have had glimmers of success but head office seems to have a short attention span.
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Three GT3 teams with Supercar links are conspicuous by their absence from the 12 Hour grid in 2018: Walkinshaw, Nissan and Tekno despite strong presence in previous years. Is money and resources getting tight?
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Tekno is the really strange one - they have totally disappeared from 2017.

Porsche bringing in Manthey instead of Walkinshaw can't be a vote of confidence
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Tekno is the really strange one - they have totally disappeared from 2017.

Porsche bringing in Manthey instead of Walkinshaw can't be a vote of confidence
The two ‘Tekno’ McLarens are entered in the B12H, just not run by Tekno...
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Three GT3 teams with Supercar links are conspicuous by their absence from the 12 Hour grid in 2018: Walkinshaw, Nissan and Tekno despite strong presence in previous years. Is money and resources getting tight?
Presumably Walkinshaw GT3 isn’t continuing considering the sale in the primary Supercar team. Their Porsche has also been superseded, and presumably there is a lack of appetite for investment with little opportunity for commercial return... and.. it seems they weren’t successful at taking over the rights to run Carrera Cup as was much talked about...
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The two ‘Tekno’ McLarens are entered in the B12H, just not run by Tekno...
Exactly no involvement from Tekno
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it seems they weren’t successful at taking over the rights to run Carrera Cup as was much talked about...
Was that seriously being talked about? Must say I missed that furphy.

Maybe it was a case of Walkinshaw racing's commercial manager leaving to be motorsport manager at Porsche - and then a someone adding 2+2 to get 5?
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Is it safe to say that if Nissan stay involved beyond 2018, it will be with a GTR body for 2019?
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Is it safe to say that if Nissan stay involved beyond 2018, it will be with a GTR body for 2019?
Watching GTR's getting beaten by Commodores does nothing for Nissan or the GTR.
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Watching GTR's getting beaten by Commodores does nothing for Nissan or the GTR.
Especially as it's positioned as Nissan's prestige performance car against Porsche, Ferrari, Mercedes, Audi etc
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