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porsche962fan · 16 Feb 2018, 20:24 (Ref:3801903)

Mat Jackson kicked out of Motorbase

maybe Bartie waited for the TD seat to fill so he can get Mat the boot as "punishment" ? this leaves Mat without a competitive seat in the BTCC

jsmee · 16 Feb 2018, 20:52 (Ref:3801906)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

Mat Jackson kicked out of Motorbase

maybe Bartie waited for the TD seat to fill so he can get Mat the boot as "punishment" ? this leaves Mat without a competitive seat in the BTCC

You don't seriously believe that?

porsche962fan · 16 Feb 2018, 20:53 (Ref:3801907)

why would it be terminated so suddenly and late ?

Jon411 · 16 Feb 2018, 21:17 (Ref:3801910)

Very surprised by this latest twist as Jackson and Motorbase pretty much went together like Turks and WSR in terms of driver and team working together.

Back in 2010 I seem to remember Bartrum being critical of Collard when he went back to WSR but surely he isn't going to eject the main driver from his team like that...

If anyone wants a read check out the final few pages on the Pistonheads forum about the BTCC - suggests things may of changed (I presume regarding the Dynamics seat) fairly recently however - certainly turning into possibly the most interesting off-season I have followed online.

thlbtcc · 16 Feb 2018, 21:25 (Ref:3801911)

With there now being a "Team GardX", will WSR be looking for another main sponsor? I know previously that some companies have sponsored multiple drivers and teams at once i.e. DUO, RCIB, but food for thought perhaps.

Rob877 · 16 Feb 2018, 21:28 (Ref:3801912)

Surely can't have been triggered by a huff because Mat Jackson was linked with a drive elsewhere. Massively cutting their nose off to spite their face if that is true. Such a shame, I thought they had the most intriguing line-up this year and was looking forward to seeing Chilton get spanked by both teamates.

I would like to see AWE get a chance in the Focus, pretty sure he tested with Motorbase at the end of 2016, and was impressive in the Audi last year. Hope it's someone who's quick and not a Depper type driver.

Jon411 · 16 Feb 2018, 21:41 (Ref:3801914)

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Originally Posted by thlbtcc

With there now being a "Team GardX", will WSR be looking for another main sponsor? I know previously that some companies have sponsored multiple drivers and teams at once i.e. DUO, RCIB, but food for thought perhaps.

I was under the impression that the GardX branding on the BMWs last year was more down to a BMW UK and GardX tie up and that resulting in the branding on the cars rather than a direct WSR/ GardX deal?

Don't quote me on that though as I'm probably wrong

S griffin · 16 Feb 2018, 21:51 (Ref:3801917)

Again shame this had to happen. Is TOC still available? If not AWE would be the best choice. I just hope MJ finds somewhere

Glad Cole is all but confirmed coming back, his win last season was a feel good story. And Jelley in a Team Parker BMW, hopefully back with familiar RWD will see him score more. Hopefully this season will be as good as last season

swooshiain · 16 Feb 2018, 21:58 (Ref:3801920)

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Originally Posted by jsmee

You don't seriously believe that?

That seems to be seen as likely by Ollie Jackson and another anonymous poster on PH who has a clear history of being heavily involved with Laser Tools

Overboost · 16 Feb 2018, 22:12 (Ref:3801922)

Up until just before last week Jackson was the man for the Dynamic's seat, TOC & Cammish were outside contenders.

Surprised by Motorbase to be honest.

Not looking good for Jackson, only one seat available apart from his berth at Motorbase now, and the second AmD seat is supposed to be a 2 horse race!

Steel Wheels · 16 Feb 2018, 22:22 (Ref:3801925)

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Originally Posted by lukej

I’ll say what I can:

- Chilton & Tordoff have nothing to do with Jackson’s contract being terminated.

- Matt Neal is definitely driving for TD.

- Epps won’t be in BTCC this year, he has a contract for Clios.

- One AMD Seat is filled.

- Cole is probably going to race where you think he is. 😉

Luke

With the filled AmD seat, do you know if this is the original person lined up for the seat? BTCC rookie but BGT race winner?

mark_l · 16 Feb 2018, 22:24 (Ref:3801926)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

why would it be terminated so suddenly and late ?

As I posted earlier, it seems even a team sponsor wasn’t in on the termination so it must of been very sudden and not something that had been planned.

I wonder if a war of words in an office escalated and someone threw the toys out of the pram.

It seems rather late for MJ to find a seat on the grid this year but DB is the master of the late deal as MJ knows so well. With the number of available drives reducing and the number of drivers with a decent budget reducing (you only have to look at some of the drivers walking away from the series) it is going to be a scramble to fill it and money will probably beat talent to the Motorbase car.

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lukej · 16 Feb 2018, 22:33 (Ref:3801927)

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Originally Posted by Steel Wheels

With the filled AmD seat, do you know if this is the original person lined up for the seat? BTCC rookie but BGT race winner?

My last post was mostly to put some rumours to bed, it’s all public information but some things need to be squashed, especially the ones about TC and ST being behind Mat’s departure.

Re the AMD MG, I can’t say because it’s someone else’s announcement, & I will never break news that isn’t mine to discuss.

Luke

Steel Wheels · 16 Feb 2018, 22:50 (Ref:3801929)

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Originally Posted by lukej

My last post was mostly to put some rumours to bed, it’s all public information but some things need to be squashed, especially the ones about TC and ST being behind Mat’s departure.

Re the AMD MG, I can’t say because it’s someone else’s announcement, & I will never break news that isn’t mine to discuss.

Luke

Totally agree, regarding the Motorbase post. With AmD just curious if it had changed as time has ticked on a bit, understand you can’t say who

medius · 16 Feb 2018, 23:17 (Ref:3801931)

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Originally Posted by Steel Wheels

Totally agree, regarding the Motorbase post. With AmD just curious if it had changed as time has ticked on a bit, understand you can’t say who

It's been the silliest silly season of the NGTC era, not because of rumours but actual goings on.

A couple of months until Media day and still question marks still floating. Just when you think all is settled, some other seismic announcement is made. Will there be another further surprising announcements that sets tongues wagging?

btccbloke · 16 Feb 2018, 23:32 (Ref:3801936)

Ok so my final prediction for these 5 seats:

BMR - Cole
Parker - Jelley
Motorbase - Depper
MG1 - AWE
MG2 - Lee Mowle

that will be it and we can all calm down!

Pdh · 16 Feb 2018, 23:36 (Ref:3801937)

[QUOTE=btccbloke;3801936]Ok so my final prediction for these 5 seats:

BMR - Cole
Parker - Jelley
Motorbase - Depper
MG1 - AWE
MG2 - Lee Mowle

Probably 1 out of the 5 predictions maybe right

RS67 · 16 Feb 2018, 23:41 (Ref:3801938)

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Originally Posted by CD34

So what ever happened to the second big announcement from cicely?

Wix Racing posted a sneak picture of part of a black and yellow car today. Dunlop "D" logo plainly visible.

RS67 · 16 Feb 2018, 23:47 (Ref:3801939)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

The DUO money wouldn't fund a whole seat, and Jackson has come up short of financing a Motorbase drive in the past.

.

Has he, when was that?

btccbloke · 16 Feb 2018, 23:55 (Ref:3801940)

All these posts about Jackson not having the sponsorship and lack of loyalty...
Remember if it wasnt for Jackson over the past few years, Motorbase would be midfield runners at best.
Do you think Jordan would have been so keen to sign in 2016 based on the results of Jack Clarke, Gio and James Cole? or Shredded Wheat joined the party because they thought Depper and Davenport scrapping over 20th place was the best move for their brand?
While he may not have given Barty a blank cheque every year, his performances for the team over the past 4 or 5 years are what has built Motorbase to the team they are today.

CD34 · 17 Feb 2018, 00:07 (Ref:3801941)

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Originally Posted by btccbloke

Ok so my final prediction for these 5 seats:

BMR - Cole
Parker - Jelley
Motorbase - Depper
MG1 - AWE
MG2 - Lee Mowle

that will be it and we can all calm down!

Mowle has just been confirmed as returning to british GT

Pdh · 17 Feb 2018, 00:09 (Ref:3801942)

The only people that know the truth are motorbase and jackson, they haven't terminated his contract because of lack of money, he was there in 2015 for half a season with very little money, it must be something more serious than money to have ended their 8 year relationship

crmalcolm · 17 Feb 2018, 05:23 (Ref:3801947)

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Originally Posted by RS67

Has he, when was that?

16th March 2015, Motorbase announced that they would only run a part season due to shortfalls in sponsorship.
Jackson was one of the drivers at the time - and the level of funding he brought to the team was not sufficient to pay for a full season entry in its own right.

This departure may not be due to finances, but when you compare the different images of Tordoff's Focus - the removal of DUO (if connected to Jackson's departure) is only a small part of the car branding. This suggests to me that the money Jackson brought to Motorbase through DUO was a lot less than Gallagher or GardX.

RS67 · 17 Feb 2018, 08:46 (Ref:3801959)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

16th March 2015, Motorbase announced that they would only run a part season due to shortfalls in sponsorship.
Jackson was one of the drivers at the time - and the level of funding he brought to the team was not sufficient to pay for a full season entry in its own right.

Both drivers had their finance in place. However, two big sponsors that Motorbase had lined up for the season pulled out with no contracts signed right before the season started. The team already had a bill for the new engines and with little time left to secure replacement sponsorship, the decision was taken and agreed with AG to compete in just half the season.

sceptic · 17 Feb 2018, 08:50 (Ref:3801961)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

16th March 2015, Motorbase announced that they would only run a part season due to shortfalls in sponsorship.
Jackson was one of the drivers at the time - and the level of funding he brought to the team was not sufficient to pay for a full season entry in its own right.

This departure may not be due to finances, but when you compare the different images of Tordoff's Focus - the removal of DUO (if connected to Jackson's departure) is only a small part of the car branding. This suggests to me that the money Jackson brought to Motorbase through DUO was a lot less than Gallagher or GardX.

It would have been if they hadn't spent a huge amount of money developing an engine over the winter, which Ford was going to pay for, only for Ford to change their mind at the start of March.

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