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Old 24 Aug 2014, 05:17 (Ref:3446734)   #126
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I wonder about Lotterer. I haven't really followed his career, we don't have Formula Nippon or WEC televisted in NZ. I know I'm looking over stats, and they're often not the full picture, but here's what I see...

He started in Formula Nippon in 2003, 3 years with Nakajima Racing, supposedly one of the top teams as they'd won the titles in 1999, 2000 and 2002 (the last with Ralph Firman who's nothing special). Andre was not able to win a title with them. He spent the next 7 years with TOM's. Loic Duval meanwhile replaced him at Nakakima and won the title, though not straight away.

Loterrer finally won the title in his 9th season, but finishing second not far behind was his new teammate, one Kazuki Nakajima. The following year Kazuki took the title, with Lotterer back in 4th.

Lotterer did beat him the following year, not for the title, but is behind him again this year as Nakajima leads the standings. Looks like they're both slower than Oliveria though.

Now this Formula Nippon - I wouldn't really have rated it as a high quality field of drivers. Most of the field is Japanese drivers, including a who's who of Japanese F1 has-beens. The best talent that's won an FN title is Ralf Schumahcer and Pedro da la Rosa.

The last several years hasn't had the most impressive lineups with mostly Japanese drivers apart from Richard Lyons, Loterrer, Duval, Treluyer and Björn Wirdheim. Not that impressive.

I can't comment on his sports car racing since reliability and your team mates come into it.

He was in British F3 before that but was pretty well thumped by team mate James Courtney, who's not a bad driver but not F1 material. Not sure what his German F3 results were like, can't find them.

Those results, Lotterer winning a single title in 11 years against Japanese drivers doesn't strike me as one of the "top 50 drivers to not make F1".

Just my thoughts anyway. Is he really that great? Anyone here actually watch FN?

He certainly impressed in outqualifying Ericsson by a second!
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 05:46 (Ref:3446736)   #127
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Back to the topic, surprised to see Andre's time 0.04 slower than a Sauber! Is it because Gutierrez too slow or Koboyashi being not able to get 150% out of the caterham?

Gutierrez stopped earlier in the session and set his time when the track was a bit wetter. Not a fair comparison.
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 05:52 (Ref:3446737)   #128
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Gutierrez stopped earlier in the session and set his time when the track was a bit wetter. Not a fair comparison.
I know, but it's a caterham.
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 09:46 (Ref:3446760)   #129
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I know, but it's a caterham.
It's an apples/oranges comparison. The Sauber time was set when the track was a lot worse.
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 11:10 (Ref:3446779)   #130
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He was in British F3 before that but was pretty well thumped by team mate James Courtney, who's not a bad driver but not F1 material.
At that time, before his big Jaguar F1 Testing shunt, Courtney was very much seen as F1 material. I think, though I may be wrong, that in most seasons Lotterer has not been present for all Formula Nippon (now Super Formula) rounds. I honestly don't feel the likes of Nakajima, Lyons, etc. should be sniffed at: They're pretty quick.


Anyway, I'm fairly sure that the statistic of three Le Mans wins in four years entitles you to a pretty good reputation!
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 11:45 (Ref:3446805)   #131
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For someone who just sat in the car, he had a decent qualifying.

Plus, check out his racing pedigree...he's a very accomplished driver. but then again, he never had sponsorship pushing all the way to F1...
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 11:52 (Ref:3446809)   #132
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How much of the qualifying effort is as a result of the Caterham car updates, and how much is attributed to the pilot?
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 14:20 (Ref:3446869)   #133
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Kolles got his Hype cash, his 'team entry' remains a juicy asset and doubt R&D got to see much of that money.

I don't think Lotterer would do a bad job if he got a better seat higher up the totem pole. But I presume this will be the last we'll be seeing of him.
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 15:08 (Ref:3446881)   #134
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Emmmm, what to say now? Andre safely escaped from a loose start losing position to his teammate, and retook it from Eric and grab some more from Gutierrez, possibly Maldonado, but got knocked out by Pastor I suppose? The might explain first lap yellow flag
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 16:17 (Ref:3446905)   #135
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Mechanical failure I believe. But he easily regained the place on his team mate after a slow start. A real shame that he wasn't able to have a bit of a run.
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Too bad he had a fast retirement, I think he showed well up onto that point.
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Give him a seat! Better than Ericsson and has more financial backing than Kobayashi
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 20:06 (Ref:3446975)   #138
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IMO, he easily deserves a seat, but not in a Caterham. I'd love to see what just an 'out to pasture sportscar driver' could do in a decent car......
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IMO, he easily deserves a seat, but not in a Caterham. I'd love to see what just an 'out to pasture sportscar driver' could do in a decent car......
Your comment would be better placed if Lotterer wasn't a front-line single seater driver in his own right.
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I guess so, but my experience of Lotterer is of someone who is superlative in a vehicle far superior to anything he drove this weekend......
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I guess so, but my experience of Lotterer is of someone who is superlative in a vehicle far superior to anything he drove this weekend......
The SF14-Toyota or Audi R18?
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His qualy performance says it all.

To outqualify someone by a second who knows the car intinatly and without any chance to test illustrates he is a class driver.
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IMO, he easily deserves a seat, but not in a Caterham. I'd love to see what just an 'out to pasture sportscar driver' could do in a decent car......

I'd love to see Bianchi in a Mercedes too..

he knows this track like the back of his hand, which explains his lap time. I expect Erricsson to come back and out qualify Lotterer at Monza.
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His qualy performance says it all.

To outqualify someone by a second who knows the car intinatly and without any chance to test illustrates he is a class driver.
That and Ericsson is somewhat lame.

Lotterer is a top driver, it was no surprise to see him acclimatise so well.
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IMO, he easily deserves a seat, but not in a Caterham. I'd love to see what just an 'out to pasture sportscar driver' could do in a decent car......
Very true... but unfortunately he's just one among many orbiting the periphery of F1 who are arguably better than most of the current GP grid.
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IMO, he easily deserves a seat, but not in a Caterham. I'd love to see what just an 'out to pasture sportscar driver' could do in a decent car......
IMO he can join Marussia, I like that team because of Bianchi
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Me too, Bianchi is bringing us surprise now and then this year. Is Lotterer only one off show this weekend or Monza as well?
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One-off I believe.
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I hope not. It would be a shame for Koba not to finish the season but if Caterham have any sense they'll at least try and get Lotterer to stay.
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