What A Drive By Fisico!!

Inigo Montoya · 6 Apr 2003, 21:42 (Ref:560805)

I don't give a rats ass about the FIA's idiotic rules - Giancarlo won that race! And what a masterful drive. Is there still anyone who doubts this guy's ability???

LUCA, JEAN, ROSS!!!! Wake the frig up!! Put Fisico behind the wheel of the F2004!!!!!!!!!!

Snrub · 6 Apr 2003, 21:46 (Ref:560814)

**Adam43** · 6 Apr 2003, 21:47 (Ref:560816)

Why would a rat own a donkey? Surely you mean that you don't care?

Anyway, I too hope that Fisi gets a good drive. If only so we can know whether all that talent we suspect he has can be turned into race wins on a consistent basis.

fastracer · 6 Apr 2003, 21:48 (Ref:560819)

Truely amazing.
He really does deserve a drive in a top team, no doubt about it. He might get it with Ralf's situation at Williams and M Schumacher's impending retirement in a couple of years. We'll just have to wait and see

**Adam43** · 6 Apr 2003, 21:51 (Ref:560833)

As for Ferrari. Again on the evidence of today's race, you wouldn't want to get rid of Rubens had the race, but he was robbed by some reason.

And Michael is, well, Michael.

Mania · 6 Apr 2003, 21:54 (Ref:560840)

It was a good drive - tough luck for him but credit also to Kimi..he's now leading the championship quite comfortably..what a race!

Miss Hardt · 6 Apr 2003, 21:57 (Ref:560844)

Rules are stupid sometimes. Yes, I bet on Kimi, but seeing Fisi winning after so many races that have gone wrong for him would have been great...

Life is a b....h

avsfan733 · 6 Apr 2003, 22:00 (Ref:560849)

Kimi hasn't really deserved either of the wins bot hof them have fallen into his lap. Granted he did gain places but he has never made a pass for the lead and both times he has had pressure on him when he is in the lead (Brazil and France) he has thrown it away

EERO · 7 Apr 2003, 02:06 (Ref:561065)

It was a beautiful drive, and by any rights, a Jordan had no right to be ahead of two Macs. This is F1 as I remember it.

Inigo Montoya · 7 Apr 2003, 02:23 (Ref:561071)

As a self confessed Fisichella fanatic, I am still wiping away the tears. Heck, it took me hours before I could contain my rage enough to put a positive enough slant on it to come here and post.

IMHO, this makes a far far worse mockery of F1 than any team orders stunt Ferrari pulled. Fisichella is a star - and no one can doubt it any longer... <sniff>

enemy-ace · 7 Apr 2003, 02:41 (Ref:561080)

Not to take anything away from Fisi as i rate him very highly, but I just don't think there was anything special about his drive today. Really it was the multitude of yellows that allowed him to stay in touch with the leaders, and if there was no red flag I'm pretty sure it would have been Coulthard's race. It would be nice to see Fisi in a top-line drive though as I'm sure he would impress mightily. It's a real shame he isn't in that Renault.

Quote:

Originally posted by avsfan733
Kimi hasn't really deserved either of the wins bot hof them have fallen into his lap. Granted he did gain places but he has never made a pass for the lead and both times he has had pressure on him when he is in the lead (Brazil and France) he has thrown it away

Kimi passed Coulthard for the lead, and you have to admit DC wasn't doing a Ruben's; he made Kimi work for it. Even as a Kimi fan I don't think even he deserved the win today, but he was sensational racing in the wet. His only downfall was probably using up his tires to much.

Inigo Montoya · 7 Apr 2003, 02:46 (Ref:561084)

Quote:

Originally posted by enemy-ace
but I just don't think there was anything special about his drive today.

I would say that there is something special about a Jordan passing (and finishin ahead of) two McLarens that seem to be on par with the Ferrari's..

Speed · 7 Apr 2003, 02:52 (Ref:561085)

Yeahhh, he made a nice pass on Kimi...

enemy-ace · 7 Apr 2003, 02:55 (Ref:561087)

This race reminds me of a couple of years ago when Junqueria won at Road America in a rain drenched/ yellow flag filled CART race. Bruno didn't deserve that win and the two guys on the podium at Interlagos today didn't deserve to win either, no matter which way you lean.
Coulthard got shafted!

bcobbus · 7 Apr 2003, 03:16 (Ref:561093)

Another CART race that resembled this I guess was the Surfer's Paradise race in the wet last year. Back on subject, what a drive for Fisi and the Jordan team. They really needed a good result.

Snrub · 7 Apr 2003, 03:22 (Ref:561100)

Surfers was no comparison to today's result. Fisi was going to do well today, regardless of the chaos that occured. The cars were more equal due to the wet and Fisi had a good starting position. Just because one's car does not entitle them to win does not mean that their talent can't shine through. Fisi certainly did that today.

There were many impressive performances and lots of passing. I hope we get to see something like this in the future. I think it's very telling. If F1 cars were closer together we'd have some great racing all the time. It started to happen last year when the midfield was very competitive and at the moment we're sort of seeing it at the front.

**Peter Mallett** · 7 Apr 2003, 05:45 (Ref:561124)

The rules say you have to go back to the first complete lap before the stoppage (or something like that) and he was second on that lap.

But never mind he did extremely well and all credit to him.

f1manoz · 7 Apr 2003, 08:23 (Ref:561186)

I'm sorry, but Giancarlo won that race fair and square. He led the lap before the stoppage. The graphics said it was stopped on lap 55, Giancarlo led on lap 54. That equals his first grand prix win.

He was robbed. No doubt about it.

My hearts really went out to the mechanics and EJ. They've struggled for three years to get back to the front. They think they have a win, then it's cruelly taken away.

Kex · 7 Apr 2003, 08:53 (Ref:561212)

It was like giving a starving man a half-eaten sandwich.

Suzy · 7 Apr 2003, 09:02 (Ref:561225)

Whenever I read about wet races which throw up an unexpected result, you always get people demeaning the eventual winner and claiming that they "didn't do anything outstanding".

My response in this situation is like a broken record - I always respond in the same way: At least the winner or moral winner kept it on the black stuff which is more than a lot of the other drivers managed to do!

Armco Bender · 7 Apr 2003, 09:28 (Ref:561257)

Fisichellas biggest stroke of luck was not being taken off by Firmans out of control 3 wheeler.It was only a miracle Firman missed him and hit the Toyota.That would have made EJs day,both cars in the wall together,perhaps second isnt too bad after all.

av8rirl · 7 Apr 2003, 09:41 (Ref:561273)

I'm delighted for the Jordan team too but you have to say that it was a comedy of errors and mistakes that gave Fisi his final position. How different it may have been if the race had not been stopped? Fisi needed to pit. Kimi surely needed to pit. Jordan would have got 2 or three points and we wouldn't have this thread.

It looks like Fisi was lucky not to be hit by Firman but I think Fisi saw this in his mirror and decided to stay put. He turned in later than normal after Firman went up the inside. He got past Kimi after Kimi made a mistake.

He stayed on the black stuff and got it to the end (or near enough). An over-rated drive but fair play.

enemy-ace · 7 Apr 2003, 10:53 (Ref:561345)

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Originally posted by Suzy
Whenever I read about wet races which throw up an unexpected result, you always get people demeaning the eventual winner and claiming that they "didn't do anything outstanding".

My response in this situation is like a broken record - I always respond in the same way: At least the winner or moral winner kept it on the black stuff which is more than a lot of the other drivers managed to do!

Last time I checked Coulthard kept it on the black stuff and drove an outstanding race, but in the end got shafted because he pitted at the wrong time. I don't consider the wet to be the cause of this finish, the red flag caused by Alonso carrying to much speed through the yellows was the culprit. This GP was a great story with a bad ending as far as I am concerned.
Now don't get me wrong I think Fisi did a good job, he just didn't deserve this win anymore than Kimi did. Fisi's a great driver but this wasn't his best drive ever. I still think Spa '01 was his defining moment.

BootsOntheSide · 7 Apr 2003, 10:59 (Ref:561352)

Yea, Giancarlo's drive was fantastic, whether ti ultiamtely yields first or second. A real lift for Jordan, and further proff that Giancarlo deserves a better car. He embarassed Kimi (and Michelin) the way the move was made.

mac · 7 Apr 2003, 11:38 (Ref:561394)

If you ask me, the hottest guys in F1 at the moment, the guys team bosses would fall over themselves to sign, are (in no particular order):

- Kimi Raikkonen
- Giancarlo Fisichella
- Fernando Alonso
- Mark Webber

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