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Old 26 Feb 2004, 11:02 (Ref:886085)   #51
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I've seen the later swifts converted run a few times and they are supposed to be a dog in Kent format. I am told (not my opinion) they where not great in zetect format, so when converted to Kent they where even worse 96 onwards are the not so good models to convert.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 14:02 (Ref:886292)   #52
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It looks like some people dont understand what test days are for..never mind.

I find go out and do five laps, change one thing then come in. and just fine tune the car its no good trying to qualify all day without using differant setups what can you learn from that.
I have broken lap times in testing but that means nothing as I know lots of guys who have done the same,when you get the car right its a pleasure to drive rather than using a base setup and driving round a problem you may have.

The data logger we have got for this year should help as there is no were to hide lol..Its good to get some constructive abuse!
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 14:28 (Ref:886319)   #53
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Considering the people you refer to apparently dont understand testing, how is it they were able to drive and lap faster then you ever did?

Maybe you are missing the point? Fine tuning your car will give you a litle bit of time, maybe a tenth or two, but not much. If at the end of a test day you have been un able to post a representititve time, then i would consider that a test day wasted.

As i originally said, FF1600 cars are tend to be that well engineered and understood by the vast majority running them in our series, making all of the pre season test days to be representative.

Besides, if you cant drive around a handling in balance, then you wont make much of a racing driver. Doing 5 laps with a set up that you are happy with, may in fact may not be the fastest over race distance for many different reasons. The fastest car setup could even be more difficult to drive, which would mean that it would take more than 5 laps to get used to and get the best out of....sometimes even a whole session.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 14:51 (Ref:886334)   #54
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I have always considered a test day a success when the car was not delivered back to the pits on a low loader...LOL
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 14:54 (Ref:886338)   #55
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You still dont get it ....I was not in it last year when the track was quicker I will take my hat of to the boys they were good times on Fosters But your broad statement to lap faster than I ever did I have still been round Island and Anglesey quicker.I can drive with a handling in balance but who would want to It sounds like you still have a lot to learn but with many hours in the car you will get there.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 14:56 (Ref:886342)   #56
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Kickstart lol I have done that three times in one day, but its good to see your mechanics face....
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 15:40 (Ref:886379)   #57
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Fangio once said," Only a fool tells people how fast he is, a wise man lets his results speak on his behalf."
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 15:43 (Ref:886380)   #58
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I have read most of the old threads ....you should have listend to Fangio then lol
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 15:47 (Ref:886386)   #59
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 16:01 (Ref:886394)   #60
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When did I say I bomb round all test day on the same set-up. I try different settings, but when i do test the different settings i go as hard as I can, therefore getting the fastest lap out of that set-up I can. Otherwise, how do you compare set-ups? by which one gives you the comfiest ride?!

Why was the track quicker last year? Oh, i forgot, they sprinkled it with magic grippy dust at the beginning of '03. LOL
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 16:14 (Ref:886407)   #61
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Every one does try to the max on every lap me included that is why you change things on the car to get the best out of it..I did not go to Oulton last year ,people who did pointed out it hardley rained so there was a lot of grip you are right I like to be nice and comfy in a car but still I am not knocking what you John and Stu did last year I would like to do the same this year...I expect it to be very tough, but thats why we do it.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 16:31 (Ref:886428)   #62
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It confused me what you said before about testing is for setting up, not best times. Well if your method of testing is 100% every lap then why would you not produce your best lap for that day/conditions/setup? I admit, the adrelin in qualifying can sometimes make me go a little quicker (usually I overdrive and go slower) but not by much.

Hopefully with the quality of the field out this year we can push the times on again. I look forward to trying anyway!

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Old 26 Feb 2004, 16:51 (Ref:886443)   #63
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I was always told that in testing you should work in sectors - working on each corner at a time. You then put it all together in the last 2 sessions.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 16:52 (Ref:886447)   #64
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Steve, Alan, Ian,
Stop squabbling.
Or more to the point, Alan stop winding people up. You are getting a high post count, but even you must admit a lot of it is drivel.
I suppose that will probably get me in trouble.
This thread is about Zetec to Kent conversions, not how to go testing and what to do when you are there. Let's just wait until Anglesey on 13th March and let your driving do the talking.
We don't want this thread to degenerate into the type of slanging match that has been going on in the best 2004 series / F Jedi thread.
And RR, don't believe everything you are told.

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Old 26 Feb 2004, 16:55 (Ref:886450)   #65
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I will change the subject- Diz, I am off to Anfield at 5pm in an exec box for tonights game...and i am a Bolton fan as well...
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 17:00 (Ref:886454)   #66
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Does that count as a zetec conversion then, or what?

Diz - excactly.
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 17:14 (Ref:886461)   #67
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I will change the subject- Diz, I am off to Anfield at 5pm in an exec box for tonights game...and i am a Bolton fan as well...
Any freebie space going in the box?
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 17:20 (Ref:886467)   #68
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If you all drive as well as you speculate then we should
have some good racing (In converted zetec or non converted)

If not I can see the book of Exscuses Exploding !!!
------------------------------------------------------------ Try filling in the commentary sheet( On car detail let us Know"Converted Zetec or not)
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 17:56 (Ref:886502)   #69
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If you all drive as well as you speculate then we should
have some good racing (In converted zetec or non converted)

If not I can see the book of Exscuses Exploding !!!
------------------------------------------------------------ Try filling in the commentary sheet( On car detail let us Know"Converted Zetec or not)
Too technical for one who has a colleage who once looked out of the commentary box and opined [good Autosport type word that] that the track must still be damp as the FF1600s were lining up on wets [old Dunlop control tyres]. Don't forget he is the one who gets the handful of commentators sheets
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 19:50 (Ref:886617)   #70
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If you all drive as well as you speculate then we should
have some good racing (In converted zetec or non converted)

If not I can see the book of Exscuses Exploding !!!
------------------------------------------------------------ Try filling in the commentary sheet( On car detail let us Know"Converted Zetec or not)
Sprocket its easy to tell a Zetec convert... there at the front:>)
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 20:49 (Ref:886679)   #71
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Diz, Drivel that must be a typing error..You may be thinking about the game over the Road, By the way they have a job opening a new manager LOL Zetec converts are great (thats to keep it in the right thread) I never wind people up (snigger)
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Old 26 Feb 2004, 21:27 (Ref:886736)   #72
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Chris the next time you have to watch Liver...l you can park 50 yards from the ground with a permit just pm me.
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you can watch my liver if you really want to, its not very exciting and probably not very healthy neither....


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Old 26 Feb 2004, 23:24 (Ref:886831)   #74
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Are you hurting little people?
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