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Old 4 Oct 2017, 12:09 (Ref:3771728)   #1
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I see that due to the introduction of LED lightboxes at circuits, MSA are mandating colour vision tests as part of the race licence medical from January. Given that around 10% of the male population have some form of colour vision deficiency I wonder if this will cause early retirement of some drivers?
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Old 4 Oct 2017, 12:28 (Ref:3771736)   #2
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I see that due to the introduction of LED lightboxes at circuits, MSA are mandating colour vision tests as part of the race licence medical from January. Given that around 10% of the male population have some form of colour vision deficiency I wonder if this will cause early retirement of some drivers?
dont remember having a race licence medical where i didnt do a colour sight test
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Old 4 Oct 2017, 12:58 (Ref:3771751)   #3
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I did think the red/green colour test was always part of the medical.....not sure why they need to retest this every year though, as I am pretty sure you are either colour blind or not, and this does not change!
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Old 4 Oct 2017, 13:02 (Ref:3771753)   #4
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dont remember having a race licence medical where i didnt do a colour sight test
Yes me tooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Old 4 Oct 2017, 13:18 (Ref:3771757)   #5
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Did wonder when I read the MSA Blue Book updates just how much more complicated this new test was going to be, and why seeing LED light boxes was any harder than seeing a flag?

Perhaps its to do with the colour Purple?

Although I do know one driver who's medical allegedly included the Doctor asking him "what colour is this red pullover I'm wearing?"
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Old 4 Oct 2017, 13:49 (Ref:3771765)   #6
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Although I do know one driver who's medical allegedly included the Doctor asking him "what colour is this red pullover I'm wearing?"
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Old 4 Oct 2017, 13:55 (Ref:3771766)   #7
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Although I do know one driver who's medical allegedly included the Doctor asking him "what colour is this red pullover I'm wearing?"
Well, that's obvious. It's green.
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Old 4 Oct 2017, 18:30 (Ref:3771830)   #8
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The correct answer was green as the question was what colour is my green jumper.

Way back when I applied for my original race licence the original test was the multi coloured dot and number one as proposed now, and I was unable to reach the required standard. My GP at the time also attended race meetings in a professional capacity and I remember him contacting the RAC, as it was at the time, on my behalf pointing out that although I could not reach the required standard of the official test, my colour vision was adequate to recognise the required flags. Following this the requirement was changed to the current simple colour recognition in the blue book.

I'm sure I was not alone with this and I can only see, as mentioned previously, a lot of early retirements and loss of revenue to the MSA. When will they stop putting obstacles in the form of rule changes in the way of competitors every year and instead think of helping and retaining them.
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Old 4 Oct 2017, 20:34 (Ref:3771854)   #9
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I have held a competition licence for over 20 years, I am also colour blind in the sense of the test. My doctor was confronted with an armful of Marshals flags that I borrowed from my local circuit. Having correctly named all the flags I duly passed the test and have not had a problem since. I have twice had my medical by a participating Motor racing doctor who conducted the test with some neat individual plastic wallets with relevant colours inside . I passed this also.
Over twenty plus years I have never had a Marshal flag or light recognition problem ! I have been preparing a car over the last couple of years at some consideable expense, to now be facing the fact that this new requirement will probably prevent me from racing it and leave me many pounds down at the same time.
A case of re inventing the wheel at some disruption to a good few Competitors who will no longer be applying for a licence! A considerable loss of revenue for the MSA.

I cant see why,having held a licence for twenty plus years with no problems why I cannot now have one!!
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Old 5 Oct 2017, 05:42 (Ref:3771957)   #10
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Over here you have to go to an optitians for the test.Dont know if the owner of the group is a member of the DMSB board though.No more stress related for my Int C.
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this comes completely out of the purple for me.....



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[QUOTE=oneofapair;3771854]Over twenty plus years I have never had a Marshal flag or light recognition problem ! QUOTE]


I started racing in 1969 and have had a few yellow flag problems, like a few of us have had !!

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The correct answer was green as the question was what colour is my green jumper.
Apologies for the colour identification error - I wasn't going to (green) grass you up.........

I reckon so long as you know what colour the rule book is you ought to be OK......
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When I started racing learned on the hard way that if the sky looks green and the grass looks blue, this means you rolled the car
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