Will Penske Just Do It??

[fomoco]

Originally Posted by mountainstar

There is no way Penske will buy in without having the long term backing of a manufacturer. That's not the way he does things. So if he buys FPR that is good news for the category as likely a long term deal with Ford is on the cards.

If the focus turns on DJR, DJ will have to go and be a figurehead or out completely because DJ and the Penske organization will mix like oil and water. A lot of people at DJR will have the shock of their lives as well. But DJ has to retire sometime so if he lands a good deal that would be a nice way to sail into retirement.

Have to agree with you on this one, from what I saw of Roger during the Indy Cars in Aust, he doesn't go about business half baked, bit like Richard Petty Motorsport but only if the category allows coupes back in, Mustang , Camaro, BMW, Jags, Nissan Godzilla etc etc

[Matt]

richard petty motorsport goes half assed though

[Casper]

Originally Posted by mountainstar

There is no way Penske will buy in without having the long term backing of a manufacturer.

Of equal or greater importance would be knowing how the management of SC will react to what will be a race team with resources many times greater than the whole of the present category added together along with what SC's long term plans are surrounding the disintegration of the two main proponents. These are hard hearted businesmen first and foremost. They do not go racing for racing's sake, they do it for what Motorsport can give them back.

If it all comes to pass it will be interesting to see if anyone follows them. That will only happen if they have a good experience from the category management but it could signal the end of the present status quo as we know it or their ability to be a force on the grid. This could happen if other US brands chose Motorsport as a vehicle to enter the Ozzie market. Remember, that is what Penske are doing it for and no other reason. they would not be here if that reason did not exist. It is marketing first and Motorsport second, it being the tool.

[mayhem]

Thinking out loud here: FPR have let an awful lot of people leave recently, Messrs Davison (x2?), Little, Small, Nilsson, maybe Penske are bringing in replacement staff...?

[Chris - Melb]

Originally Posted by mayhem

Thinking out loud here: FPR have let an awful lot of people leave recently, Messrs Davison (x2?), Little, Small, Nilsson, maybe Penske are bringing in replacement staff...?

Let go?!!!!

Anyway, the possible Penske entry is causing interest around the world: http://www.teknikensvarld.se/2013/12...percars-start/

http://www.motorpasionf1.com/v8-supe...s-v8-supercars

[Chris - Melb]

This subject has gone quiet. Rod Nash is quoted in this article: http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013...seg_4=Outbrain

[kurski]

Team Penske has publicly declared its interest in hiring Marcos Ambrose if hopes to enter the V8 Supercars Championship come to fruition.

[GTRMagic]

Its not normally the Penske way to shout about what they are going to do before they do it... Maybe its already done?

[bluesport]

I have my doubts about Penske, their engines should be good but aren't they oval specialists?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by bluesport

I have my doubts about Penske, their engines should be good but aren't they oval specialists?

Not at all.

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Matt

Not at all.

Matt, you are closer to the action, you have confidence that Penske can set-up a supercar as good as T8, and they won't just be another Pro-drive FPR debacle?

[Matt]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Matt, you are closer to the action, you have confidence that Penske can set-up a supercar as good as T8, and they won't just be another Pro-drive FPR debacle?

Without a doubt. Penske doesn't half-ass things.

They've won in NASCAR, Indycar, CART, Formula One, The 24hr of Daytona, 12hr of Sebring(in a P2 overall!) five time Trans-Am champions, Can-Am championships(they ran the Porsche 917-30), were in charge of the Porsche RS Spyder program in the US, etc, etc, etc.

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Matt

Without a doubt. Penske doesn't half-ass things.

They've won in NASCAR, Indycar, CART, Formula One, The 24hr of Daytona, 12hr of Sebring(in a P2 overall!) five time Trans-Am champions, Can-Am championships(they ran the Porsche 917-30), were in charge of the Porsche RS Spyder program in the US, etc, etc, etc.

OK, thanks for that, we'll have to wait and see how things pan out.

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by bluesport

Matt, you are closer to the action, you have confidence that Penske can set-up a supercar as good as T8, and they won't just be another Pro-drive FPR debacle?

Mind you saying all that, you can't exactly knock Prodrive's pedigree either!

Just don't know they did enough with FPR management wise. Fish rots from the head.

[Malfunction Junction]

If Penske comes, they will come to win and they will win.

Domination is entirely another thing though.

Whomever they choose to drive for them will both a) drive and b) represent leverage for the sponsors. Penske are the masters at maximising all possible opportunities from their activities.

Lets not forget that there are a few unused franchises out there now.....

[cmk]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Mind you saying all that, you can't exactly knock Prodrive's pedigree either!

Just don't know they did enough with FPR management wise. Fish rots from the head.

True enough on both fronts, but I don't think anyone anywhere in racing can surpass the breadth and depth of success Roger's organization has. Sure, some of it's because they've been doing it a darn long time, but that's probably one of their greatest strengths too.

[bluesport]

Hmm, I wonder if Whincup is looking at driving for Penske? That may be why he hasn't committed long term to T8. It could open up opportunities for him in other categories overseas as well.

[chavez]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Mind you saying all that, you can't exactly knock Prodrive's pedigree either!

Just don't know they did enough with FPR management wise. Fish rots from the head.

Prodrive's form in Touring Cars prior to their entry into V8 Supercars could have been described as "patchy" at best.

In other catergories, such as Rallyiing, they were top class.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by chavez

Prodrive's form in Touring Cars prior to their entry into V8 Supercars could have been described as "patchy" at best.

In other catergories, such as Rallyiing, they were top class.

Not sure they were that wonderful in rallying... internationally anyway... anyone remember the touring car front splitter their rally team designed.. which only worked at certain ride heights.. and not when its smashed away by trees and mud and logs and rocks... or indeed under braking when the nose dives under force of braking pressure...

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Not sure they were that wonderful in rallying... internationally anyway... anyone remember the touring car front splitter their rally team designed.. which only worked at certain ride heights.. and not when its smashed away by trees and mud and logs and rocks... or indeed under braking when the nose dives under force of braking pressure...

then there was the Mini WRCar flop

[Matt]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Not sure they were that wonderful in rallying... internationally anyway... anyone remember the touring car front splitter their rally team designed.. which only worked at certain ride heights.. and not when its smashed away by trees and mud and logs and rocks... or indeed under braking when the nose dives under force of braking pressure...

I've actually never heard of this, enlighten me? Sounds like it's an excellent story.

[Marcos WTF]

Originally Posted by kurski

Team Penske has publicly declared its interest in hiring Marcos Ambrose if hopes to enter the V8 Supercars Championship come to fruition.

Why Dirty Marcos? Is he offering Senior discounts?

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by Marcos WTF

Why Dirty Marcos? Is he offering Senior discounts?

Ambrose and Whincup, an impressive driver line-up for Penske.

[samoaair707]

Originally Posted by Marcos WTF

Why Dirty Marcos? Is he offering Senior discounts?

Maybe he is offering to bring his get out of jail free card that he had when with SBR.

Wonder if he will remember to bring his balaclava

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Not sure they were that wonderful in rallying... internationally anyway... anyone remember the touring car front splitter their rally team designed.. which only worked at certain ride heights.. and not when its smashed away by trees and mud and logs and rocks... or indeed under braking when the nose dives under force of braking pressure...

3 manufacturers championships and 3 drivers world championships not enough for you, especially given they were achieved in what is arguably the most competitive time ever in the WRC?

Originally Posted by chavez

Prodrive's form in Touring Cars prior to their entry into V8 Supercars could have been described as "patchy" at best. In other catergories, such as Rallyiing, they were top class.

Aston Martin in GT racing is another feather in the cap.

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

then there was the Mini WRCar flop

Can hardly call it a flop, it was fast but the funding was pulled, there was some kind of spat with BMW, I really don't know what went on but the car wasn't the problem.