Dome LMP Discussion - Page 74

Deleted · 30 May 2015, 21:00 (Ref:3543057)

When RLM did the LMP2 WEC class preview earlier this spring it was pretty clear that Dome was dying as a participating name in this sport anyway.

templer · 30 May 2015, 21:30 (Ref:3543069)

Very sad news for me as I loved the cars since the stunning Dome BMW and the S101.

As nearly the whole engineering stuff of the S103 LMP2 is now at TRD the DNA of the S103 can live on. Dome has never stopped the development on the LMP1 version and so maybe there is the chance to see a LMP1 ( call it designed by Dome) in the future.

The only question is, is Toyota interested to build a customer LMP1 by TRD in Japan for maybe Strakka and/or SARD.

TF110 · 31 May 2015, 02:17 (Ref:3543129)

Well, Japanese Samurai gave us some information on the staff transfer. According to this, they arent going to TMG but TRD in Japan which Kinoshita-san is now heading. So I wonder if this will bless SARD or if a new project is in store for these guys. And what about Strakka?

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

According to Sports-carracing.net,
Much of Dome's LMP development staff seems transferred to TRD (Toyota Racing Development).
TRD is business division of TTC (Toyota Techno Craft).
But it seems that Yoshiaki Kinoshita become a CEO of TRD.
In short, it seems that TRD will be corporate.
http://www.sports-carracing.net/2015...tm#150401news1

TzeiTzei · 31 May 2015, 09:07 (Ref:3543227)

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Originally Posted by Giba

I hope that before 2017, that they are able to show the full potential of the S103

Maybe they already have. They did a lot of testing before going racing and so far haven't really impressed. The change from Michelin to Dunlop seems like the last option to find more speed.

e. I thought that Strakka owned the IP for the S103? So if it's going to live on, it would have to be a Strakka effort.

bentley speed 8 · 15 Jun 2015, 17:02 (Ref:3550827)

I wonder whether Strakka will continue much longer with the car. It looks well off the pace of the other LMP2 cars, even after switching to Dunlops.

kvenom · 15 Jun 2015, 17:08 (Ref:3550828)

Dome always have interesting designs, they just never really work unfortunately.

**FIRE** · 15 Jun 2015, 18:23 (Ref:3550854)

During the Racing for Holland years they did pretty well. Several top 10 finishes at LM.

aneesh99 · 15 Jun 2015, 19:37 (Ref:3550881)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

Well, Japanese Samurai gave us some information on the staff transfer. According to this, they arent going to TMG but TRD in Japan which Kinoshita-san is now heading. So I wonder if this will bless SARD or if a new project is in store for these guys. And what about Strakka?

Info is dead on. Most of the staff and the like work under Techno Craft, Dome's composite equipment and facilities along with a few composite boys were taken by Toray back in 2013.

templer · 15 Jun 2015, 20:59 (Ref:3550918)

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Originally Posted by aneesh99

Info is dead on. Most of the staff and the like work under Techno Craft, Dome's composite equipment and facilities along with a few composite boys were taken by Toray back in 2013.

Not true. Most of the engineers as well as the chief designer of the S103 joined Toyota Racing development or short TRD in Japan.

Btw it is fair to blame Dome for a gearbox damage. The gearbox was not designed by Dome. The car is not on same level like Ligier or Oreca now but it showed a much better pace in the earlier hours.
They need more testing work.

TF110 · 15 Jun 2015, 21:03 (Ref:3550923)

And better drivers. Lapierre and co some other drivers like in the jota were on another level.

aneesh99 · 15 Jun 2015, 21:57 (Ref:3550939)

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Originally Posted by templer

Not true. Most of the engineers as well as the chief designer of the S103 joined Toyota Racing development or short TRD in Japan.

Errr, that's what I said. TRD operate under Technocraft. Might want to google a few things before calling me out mate. In the interest of time, take a gander at their corporate structure

Giba · 16 Jun 2015, 15:05 (Ref:3551185)

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Originally Posted by bentley speed 8

I wonder whether Strakka will continue much longer with the car. It looks well off the pace of the other LMP2 cars, even after switching to Dunlops.

I think they will with all the effort that they have put into the car. Also, that was the first race with the car in Dunlops so hopefully it will be more competitive at the nurburgring.

Japanese Samurai · 3 Jul 2015, 08:25 (Ref:3555558)

Motor Fan Illustrated magazine features Dome S103 "LMP1 version" windtunnel model.
http://www.as-books.jp/books/sample.php?no=MFS20150703

Giba · 3 Jul 2015, 10:02 (Ref:3555570)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Motor Fan Illustrated magazine features Dome S103 "LMP1 version" windtunnel model.
http://www.as-books.jp/books/sample.php?no=MFS20150703

Sadly I doubt we will see that version ever race

Japanese Samurai · 3 Jul 2015, 11:00 (Ref:3555583)

I don't think so.
If SARD wishes for original LMP1, Dome S103 (LMP1 version) is logical choice.
Dome has S103 monocoque and IPs. Toyota Techno Craft has development staff.
The only problem is the fund raising ability of SARD.

kvenom · 3 Jul 2015, 16:26 (Ref:3555634)

Seeing a lot of Toyota influences, especially the rear endplates attached to the floor.

TzeiTzei · 3 Jul 2015, 16:34 (Ref:3555636)

It would be nice to see this racing. But after seeing all the problems the P2 car had and its underwhelming performance, I have my doubts about the LMP1's competitiveness. But the more the merrier

TF110 · 3 Jul 2015, 18:01 (Ref:3555654)

The dome lmp2 had a switch to new dunlop tires a lot later than every other team. They ran ok at Le Mans until the failure. Id love to see the Dome lmp1 ran by SARD. Is Kinoshita involved at all or just TRD?

Deleted · 3 Jul 2015, 19:43 (Ref:3555676)

Domes always fail down on reliability. They should focus on that instead of going for speed (really they were disappointed for not getting the highest straight line speed - who cares???). With Strakka and Leventis it doesn't really matter anyway. Also only having one single chassis in the entire world isn't doing good. Two would increase chances. But of course that is now pointless in the world of spec-LMP2

I would love SARD-Dome P1 but it's gonna be cheaper, easier and more results-guaranteed to just purchase R-One from Oreca or something. Maybe even talk to Oak.

SARD could have talked to Dome this year already in P2 instead of going with the doomed Morand 'alliance'

That windtunnel model is zillion times better looking than the S103 P2 btw

Japanese Samurai · 4 Jul 2015, 03:37 (Ref:3555718)

Motor Fan Illustrated magazine's S103 report.
*Le Mans spec aero parts (diveplane, front fender side fence) were developed by Strakka.
(Development agent of S103 is shifted to Strakka from April, 2015.)
*S103's doors were changed to 2 hinges because regulation interpretation became strict in 2015.
*Upper exhaust was changed because exhaust blowing couldn't be controlled.

TF110 · 4 Jul 2015, 04:32 (Ref:3555722)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiana

Domes always fail down on reliability. They should focus on that instead of going for speed (really they were disappointed for not getting the highest straight line speed - who cares???). With Strakka and Leventis it doesn't really matter anyway. Also only having one single chassis in the entire world isn't doing good. Two would increase chances. But of course that is now pointless in the world of spec-LMP2

I would love SARD-Dome P1 but it's gonna be cheaper, easier and more results-guaranteed to just purchase R-One from Oreca or something. Maybe even talk to Oak.

SARD could have talked to Dome this year already in P2 instead of going with the doomed Morand 'alliance'

That windtunnel model is zillion times better looking than the S103 P2 btw

Dome isnt responsible for the running gear. The Strakka's failure had nothing to do with the 'car', right?

Japanese Samurai · 4 Jul 2015, 11:06 (Ref:3555743)

According to Motor Fan Illustrated magazine,
Dome LMP1 had the unique concept that air under the side pontoon is flown between the rear cowl and the rear diffuser like AMR-One.
The concept had potential ability, but it was canceled by the lack of resources.

kvenom · 4 Jul 2015, 14:34 (Ref:3555762)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

Dome isnt responsible for the running gear. The Strakka's failure had nothing to do with the 'car', right?

Yeah, but they had to completely change the rear end, head restraints and door hinges because of design problems causing months of delays. I'd say that's Dome's fault.

ss_collins · 4 Jul 2015, 16:44 (Ref:3555775)

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Also only having one single chassis in the entire world isn't doing good. Two would increase chances.

There are at least 2 S103's...

Pontlieue · 4 Jul 2015, 17:30 (Ref:3555778)

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Originally Posted by ss_collins

There are at least 2 S103's...

The second is currently a spare car for Strakka, isn't it?

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