WEC Toyota LMP1 Discussion - Page 197

tyronnezx · 20 Oct 2016, 04:32 (Ref:3681541)

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Originally Posted by kvenom

To me he is the most marketable and best interview in the team.

Dont think that's enough

kvenom · 26 Oct 2016, 12:58 (Ref:3683007)

As much as its a shame for Audi to leave, there is no excuse for Toyota now. They need a bulletproof fast car for next year.

GasperG · 26 Oct 2016, 13:03 (Ref:3683008)

Will they come with three cars or not?

Articus · 26 Oct 2016, 13:10 (Ref:3683010)

Lotterer to Toyota?

bavila · 26 Oct 2016, 13:38 (Ref:3683023)

Super excited to see the real battle between Toyota and Porsche. Both teams will be extra focused on next year. CAN NOT WAIT!

**PascaLM** · 26 Oct 2016, 15:45 (Ref:3683071)

Toyota will have to enter three cars and former Audi drivers.

tyronnezx · 26 Oct 2016, 20:35 (Ref:3683176)

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Originally Posted by kvenom

As much as its a shame for Audi to leave, there is no excuse for Toyota now. They need a bulletproof fast car for next year.

Im with you on this. Fast Car and a third cars a no brianer now. you have Lotterer, Douval and Ben all Toyota drivers in other series. Be silly not to.

But in all honesty if they dont pump up the effort next year and give Porsche a good hiding, ill leave WEC following

chernaudi · 26 Oct 2016, 21:13 (Ref:3683184)

With no Audi to stand in their way, and Porsche having a by then nearly three year old car, and two cars vs probably three for Toyota, there's little excuse for Toyota to not win LM next year. They nearly did it this year with the odds more stacked against them.

I hope that Toyota stick it to Porsche next year, though if they win LM and the WEC again, what'll happen after 2017?

chernaudi · 26 Oct 2016, 21:51 (Ref:3683203)

BTW, if you want another Toyota LM/WEC fan, I'd like to come aboard as of the end of the season

MoMedic9019 · 27 Oct 2016, 00:15 (Ref:3683242)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

With no Audi to stand in their way, and Porsche having a by then nearly three year old car, and two cars vs probably three for Toyota, there's little excuse for Toyota to not win LM next year. They nearly did it this year with the odds more stacked against them.

I hope that Toyota stick it to Porsche next year, though if they win LM and the WEC again, what'll happen after 2017?

Porsche will come back and pound around by themselves in 2018, secure another win and call it quits. They will go back to focusing on GTE as a whole.

If Toyota win next year.

TF110 · 27 Oct 2016, 01:01 (Ref:3683249)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

With no Audi to stand in their way, and Porsche having a by then nearly three year old car, and two cars vs probably three for Toyota, there's little excuse for Toyota to not win LM next year. They nearly did it this year with the odds more stacked against them.

I hope that Toyota stick it to Porsche next year, though if they win LM and the WEC again, what'll happen after 2017?

Toyota said that the WEC is their #1 race program. That means the WRC is in addition to it, so I don't think they'll leave because of that. Plus they supposedly supported or pushed for 3 ers's for 2018.

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

BTW, if you want another Toyota LM/WEC fan, I'd like to come aboard as of the end of the season

You'll have to change your screen name to cherntoyota

kvenom · 27 Oct 2016, 11:58 (Ref:3683351)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Toyota said that the WEC is their #1 race program. That means the WRC is in addition to it, so I don't think they'll leave because of that. Plus they supposedly supported or pushed for 3 ers's for 2018.

Things can change though, especially if they win Le Mans. I remember in 2009, John Howlett (The TMG president at the time) said of course they would be continuing in F1, they were even trying to sign Raikonnen. The board just simply pulled the plug shortly after.

Victor_RO · 27 Oct 2016, 12:03 (Ref:3683353)

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Originally Posted by kvenom

Things can change though, especially if they win Le Mans. I remember in 2009, John Howlett (The TMG president at the time) said of course they would be continuing in F1, they were even trying to sign Raikonnen. The board just simply pulled the plug shortly after.

True, but this time the Toyota board has been making public statements regarding the WEC program and the fact that they explicitly approved it to go on as an R&D effort too.

GasperG · 27 Oct 2016, 12:25 (Ref:3683359)

Toyota Hybrid is a trademark they are willing to push for many years, on many areas.

Maybe if they get caught up in HybridGate and suddenly change their direction into diesel powertrains

ArnageWRC · 27 Oct 2016, 12:34 (Ref:3683363)

The Toyota WRC effort is nowhere near the WEC programme; it's all a bit Toyota Team Finland at the moment.....quite right that the WEC is taking priority!!

TF110 · 27 Oct 2016, 19:47 (Ref:3683445)

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Originally Posted by kvenom

Things can change though, especially if they win Le Mans. I remember in 2009, John Howlett (The TMG president at the time) said of course they would be continuing in F1, they were even trying to sign Raikonnen. The board just simply pulled the plug shortly after.

Right, but that was mostly because the financial crisis at that time. No such worries now. And this interview with Koei Saga should say a lot about what their level of commitment is. This part in particular

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Toyota Blog: What was your feeling at the end of the Le Mans 24 Hours?

Koei Saga: “Of course, we were not satisfied with that result. I was disappointed, but that’s life and that’s the point of racing and I have to cope with that.

“Our goal was to win Le Mans and we prepared for that for the whole of last year. Due to our pre-race simulations and tests, we were very optimistic and until the last few minutes everything went according to our plans. However, in the last couple of minutes we had really bad luck. But that’s racing.”

Does that result change anything about your future plans?

“Our basic plan doesn’t change and neither do our policies. But we want to recover and to put greater distance over our rivals. Therefore, we need to put a lot of effort into next year and start development at an early stage.

“We plan to get a bigger distance over our rivals and that results in more work for us.”

Matador · 30 Oct 2016, 15:52 (Ref:3684032)

Toyota better have those drivers that wheel for them in other series on speed dial. Especially Andre Lotterer.

I've been wanting to see him behind the wheel of a Toyota LMP1 since 2012.

chernaudi · 30 Oct 2016, 16:33 (Ref:3684041)

If Toyota end up with the latest Audi LM Dream Team, I think that they'll be on loan from Audi, depending on driver contracts. I'd believe that Marcel, and especially Ben and Andre, probably have long term contracts with Audi Sport similar to what McNish and Kristensen have had/still have.

One issue is that if they become Audi/Audi Sport ambassadors, that could present marketing issues with both Audi and Toyota if Audi loan them out for LM. Or Audi might have to temporarily suspend their contracts with Audi Sport as long as they're on loan to Toyota (granted, as of the checkered flag at Bahrain, Audi and TMG won't be direct on track competitors for the foreseeable future). Loaning them to Porsche if they run a third car (which I believe is kinda unlikely) would be easier, since Audi and Porsche cars are owned by Volkswagen Group.

TF110 · 30 Oct 2016, 18:10 (Ref:3684066)

Lotterer drives Toyota in Super Formula. If he wants in their lmp1, I doubt he will stay with Audi who are only interested in F-E which he criticized. In fact he was with Toyota years before his Audi lmp1 outing doing Super GT.

chernaudi · 30 Oct 2016, 23:41 (Ref:3684146)

Also does anyone know of the engine use situation at Toyota? They had already gone though most of their engine allotment as of Nurburgring. If the 6 has to do a 3 minute stop and hold in one of the next two races, that'll probably screw them out of the championship.

TF110 · 31 Oct 2016, 05:24 (Ref:3684191)

They can reuse an older engine. The #5 is the one with more issues.

Starfish Primer · 31 Oct 2016, 19:14 (Ref:3684360)

I wonder how the WRC program may impact the WEC, specially because how the WRC project is being run doesn´t have any sense.

TF110 · 31 Oct 2016, 21:37 (Ref:3684393)

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Originally Posted by Starfish Primer

I wonder how the WRC program may impact the WEC, specially because how the WRC project is being run doesn´t have any sense.

What do you mean? TMG still will have a part in the wrc team. They're doing some if not all of the engine work. But I don't see what would affect the lmp1 program.

ederss7 · 31 Oct 2016, 22:47 (Ref:3684407)

When we talk about Toyota's budget, are we talking about the money the guys in Germany receive from Japan or it's the money spent on the whole LMP1 programme, including things made in Japan, like the engine and hybrid system?

Starfish Primer · 2 Nov 2016, 18:38 (Ref:3684824)

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Originally Posted by TF110

What do you mean? TMG still will have a part in the wrc team. They're doing some if not all of the engine work. But I don't see what would affect the lmp1 program.

Directly use Makinen to make the car instead of TMG, even Makinen tried to build the engine outside TMG.

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