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Old 2 Nov 2015, 15:25 (Ref:3587505)   #31
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http://lebinc.co.za/dunlop-slicks-ty...16-gtc-series/

Some more information about the series' 2016 plans and a sketch of a GTC spec VW Jetta.
No firm additional commitments from teams or manufacturers as of right now, tough.
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Old 3 Nov 2015, 17:11 (Ref:3587872)   #32
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Some more information about the series' 2016 plans and a sketch of a GTC spec VW Jetta.
No firm additional commitments from teams or manufacturers as of right now, tough.
Nice looking car. Good to see they have replaced the ugly original front.

I can understand the reason but a shame they will not use the big V8 engine.
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Old 25 Nov 2015, 17:43 (Ref:3593302)   #33
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VW with a two car "works" entry:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=935363233218373

Bit surprising, considering their recent troubles. Maybe the South African importer has less problems with Dieselgate than people in other markets...?
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Series frontman Gary Formato says that nine GTC cars will take to the grid at the opening round next year fielded mostly by drivers who were competing in the now defunct Production Car series.

Among them are some of SA’s best tin-top racers including reigning champ Hennie Groenewald, multiple title holder Michael Stephen, Michael van Rooyen and well-known TV personality Gary Formato.

Apart from the nine GTC cars, the category will also make room for lower level classes: GTC Production and GTC X.
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They announced 2016 calendar on Facebook
The inaugural 7 Round, 2016 GTC Africa calendar, is as follows –
- 4 June – Aldo Scribante Race Track, Port Elizabeth
- 16 or 18 June - Kyalami (Thursday or Saturday)
- 9 July - East London GP Circuit
- 9 August - Zwartkops Raceway (Sasol Raceday - National Women’s Day - TUESDAY)
- 24 September – Killarney Race Track, Cape Town
- 22 October - Kyalami
- 26 November - Zwartkops Raceway - Endurance Race (double championship points)
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There was a bit of a surprise at the series' launch a few days ago:



Yup, that's a BMW. Looks like 8 GTC-cars (plus some production cars) for the first year and cars from VW, BMW and Audi. Kind of surprised there are no Fords, seeing how it's based on the MARC-cars, but the BMW is a nice surprise and actually looks quite a bit better than the Australian Focus and Mazda with their weird radiator opening at the front.
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those cars look great.

any info about tv coverage for the races?
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Nice looking cars.

And yes much better looking radiator.
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I see they went WTCC style with the cooling duct.

Wish the V8 engine was still available. Would be neat to have two spec powerplant options.
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I see they went WTCC style with the cooling duct.

Wish the V8 engine was still available. Would be neat to have two spec powerplant options.
The engines aren't spec at all. While 2.0T is the only engine formula that's allowed, the engines are indeed manufacturer-specific from what I understand.


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Looks like 8 cars in GTC (2 Audis, 4 BMWs, 2 VWs) and 8 for GTC2, i.e. the former production class. 6 Golfs and 2 Minis in there for now, but apparently there's a Honda on the way too. The top class might also see a mid-season addition as there is a new car in build by a privateer - going by some comments on their facebook site, that could be a Ford.

Not sure where this series is going right now... 16 cars is the bare minimum for it to be considered even remotely credible, but they are managing this and might get up to 18 or more during the year.

The elephant in the room is of course TCR, which was announced about one year after the plans for the GTC-series were made public... Maybe that would work as an in between class?
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8 GTC cars last year...now 8 + 2. Not really an increase of cars.

Do we know something about costs compared to TCR?
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8 GTC cars last year...now 8 + 2. Not really an increase of cars.

Do we know something about costs compared to TCR?
Last year they said 1.3million Rand, i.e. a smidgen under 100k€... fairly similar to TCR then. Local manufacturing must help with keeping prices down. Not sure about running costs. If the engines are indeed non-spec and push out close to 400bhp they might need a bit more attention than the TRC-mills.

I think 8-10 cars in the top class would actually be fine if they could back it up with 15 or so production cars.

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Last year they said 1.3million Rand, i.e. a smidgen under 100kÄ... fairly similar to TCR then. Local manufacturing must help with keeping prices down. Not sure about running costs, if the engines are indeed non-spec and push out close to 400bhp they might need a bit more attention than the TRC-mills.
At first I was enthusiastic about GTC but that has become less.
I still like the V8 powered original. It's larger predecessor, the NZ V8 Supertourer even more. An Audi and BMW Supertourer would be cool, but more expensive than GTC (around Ä20k more?). Maybe the S-A market is just too small for a GTC series like this.
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