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View Poll Results: Has Touring Car racing become that removed from road cars?
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Old 24 Jan 2011, 19:03 (Ref:2820035)   #1
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Are Touring Cars that far removed from Road Cars?

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So I've shamelessly nicked an idea, as I think it would be interesting to expand the topic here.

So has touring car racing become so removed from road going cars?

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Old 24 Jan 2011, 19:30 (Ref:2820044)   #2
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DTM - yes
Super2000 - no
NGTC - no
Superstars - no
V8 Supercars - no
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Assuming "that" means more than 7.2. Yes they are.
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Old 24 Jan 2011, 19:45 (Ref:2820055)   #4
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DTM - Closer to prototypes
NGTC - More removed than S2000, but less removed than Supertouring
S2000 - Close, but very highly modified
V8 Supercars - Nowhere near as close to road cars as you may think
V8 Superstars - Possibly closer than NGTC

I can't vote on the poll because ''touring cars'' is too vague a statement.
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Old 24 Jan 2011, 23:50 (Ref:2820141)   #5
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DTM - yes
Super2000 - no
NGTC - no
Superstars - no
V8 Supercars - no
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Highly Modified?

You can do a flat bottom at home, but every rock in the world will clank on the bottom of it, you want that?

They remove all the sound deadening, again like rocks and pebbles?

200-230hp N/A is not all that street-able but having said that, you can get 300hp N/A at the wheels from a TSX/RSX 2.4 swap.
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DTM - yes
Super2000 - no
NGTC - no
Superstars - no
V8 Supercars - no
I'll have to disagree with you on the V8 Supercars, the only similarity they share with the road going cars is the badge on the bonnet. The Commodore has had a 98mm chop in the wheelbase and length, and the Falcon has had similar. NOt a single panel is shared with roadcars, nor are the engines (or any relative) available in either road car.
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Old 3 Feb 2011, 05:46 (Ref:2824887)   #8
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Not overlooking that fact that V8 Supercars are all space frame these days with just some Ford or Holden body panels bolted on.

Touring cars are vastly different from road cars. I have a 1994 BMW 320i Supertourer and I think the shell is about that only thing that you would find on a road going version. Different engine, gearbox, diff, steering & suspension, fuel system, dash & controls...
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Super 2000 and Superstars are perfectly acceptable. NGTC and TC2000 with spec engines aren't pure touring cars, but economy and parity forces organisers to use them. DTM, Top Race and Solution F can't be considered real touring cars, they are silhouettes - prototypes with lookalike bodies.
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