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6 Aug 2013, 19:54 (Ref:3286621) | #1 | ||
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Holden Local Manufacturing... GONE!! (Merged)
Now its holdens turn
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If the items quoted in the Holden article are factual, then it goes a long way to explaining why local vehicle manufacturing is going down the gurgler. There is so much in there that many other employers/employees have had as their basic rules of employment for years. 40 minutes of paid breaks - really!!??
Comparison with the working conditions experienced in vehicle manufacture in other countries would be interesting. In particular I wonder if the US unions had to relinquish much when GM were restructuring while under Chapter 11. Personally, I want Holden and Toyota to continue manufacturing locally and not become just Design and Engineering Centres like Ford will be. If Holden pull the pin, will there be enough business to keep the already suffering/downsizing OEM suppliers in business with just TMCA and the spare parts organisations as customers? Yes, this might mean large dollars in Government support, but if the whingers and moaners realised how much foreign governments handed out in support per capita compared to ours, then maybe they would shut up .... naaah, they won't |
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Some good points, but having worked at GMH fishermansbend, some years back, it is still controlled by North Americans, so no matter what the Govts do, the unions agree with, and the public buy, the North Americans will decide, and most likley like ford, shut down, and dump euro regulated cars and **** boxes from the north american market on us. After all they killed the Manaro, |
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Seen another article saying something about GM looking for more money, but would wait until after the election to make any big decisions
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Wow $4m is a fair old party, if you were a lifer at Broady I dunno how you'd feel about that.
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On the flipside, I'm a business owner myself, I had to let an employee go earlier this year after losing a vendor, and I still spent money on marketing after that. Mind you I scaled down from 2 $50k trade shows to 2 $10k parties, but still...
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But you paid for it yourself, out of your own "hard earned".........blokes like you are the salt of the earth........have a good one.
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Pity Ford hasn't done the same. Ford's $4m party will soon be forgotten, but if they quit V8s it will haunt their brand and PR efforts for many many years. |
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They do not utilise the PR aspect now so won't miss it. In fact I doubt that either Holden or Ford utilise it fully. When was the last Monday morning advert run in a newspaper or online trumpeting a Sunday victory? It used to be routine and expected that the winner would advertise the result full page in Monday's papers.
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i see more celebration from the Ford Racing Facebook page (based out of Dearborn I believe) than I do locally for any results in the V8's
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So now there is a second 'lucky country'
Here's hoping they sell in the US in enough numbers to keep the plant running at top speed |
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I think you'll be alright on that one from fleet sales alone. The old American-built Chevrolet Caprice was one of the favored cars of American police forces, and after they killed it the Ford Crown Victoria got a lot of that business along with the Dodge Charger - many police units didn't like the Chevrolet Impala much. Now that the Crown Victoria is gone, the Chevrolet Super Sport (what they're calling the Aussie-built cars here) is probably gonna get a lot of interest from police forces alone, along with other buyers. Just hope that the exchange rate between the Aussie $ and the American $ stays good enough to make selling the cars profitable.
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Ford SUVs muscle in on US police fleets
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There's a fair chance that the positive response to the existing police only specials has helped make the argument for the new SS civilian version - not the same spec of course but it would have helped. |
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At last a Govt Minister telling like it is, As much as I am a Fordie, I did my Apprenticeship at GMH, (General Motors Holden) and have a soft spot for them, but like Mc Farlane says, it's one hell of a challenge.
Hate to see our Automotive Engineering get lost to overseas, article: http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbu...en-in-adelaide |
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will it be on the news tonight or just in Adelaide
http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbu...ompany-in-aust |
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Gee, if this trend continues there won't be any taxpayers, so the govt will have to close centrelink and stop medicare......people will have to get on boats in Idonesia to go to China, South Korea and Taiwan to find an income........lotsa luck with your new destinations fellas, I eagerly await video footage of burqhas in Tianamen Square.
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It's not just cars - locomotives as well Downer EDI (who hold the local EMD -formerly GM, licence) have announced that all locomotive will now be built at an overseas "low cost" plant. Local centres will only do servicing.
And the newest Sydney suburban trains come from China. |
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Federal Government Fleet Size... Info Here
Perhaps the FBT laws could be modified to incentivise people to take Australian-made cars instead of imported ones? Reduce the FBT liability by some amount that makes it financially responsible to take a Cruze instead of an i30... Or just let it all shut down, so we have nothing... |
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