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Without evidence of a causal link, it could be put down to coincidence or it could be said that due to numerous other factors, we have ridden the storm well IN SPITE of our lack of Tariff protection. |
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My take on the GFC soft landing is that Australia benefitted from 3 key issues when the GFC hit, and that continued tariff reductions were definitely a hindrance. In no order of importance: 1) Whether due to govt regulation, good management, or a combination of both, our bank sector was not crippled in the way that some US and European institutions were. The big 4 would have taken some hits, but overall they all prospered through the tough times. 2) During the "good" years up to 2007/8, the Liberal govt had the sense to store the surpluses as reserves, and not splash it about. When the GFC hit, Labour held the reins, but whichever govt was in power would have had to use those reserves to prop things up with industry support and various stimulus packages. 3) The mining boom meant raw material exports were good, and the country as a whole wasn't hit the way others were. However, the economy was effectively split into a 2 speed economy, with resources booming, and manufacturing suffering; partially due to the A$. I don't know if the A$ going strong helped us through the GFC, but what it did do was hit our exports, and make imports substantially cheaper. In combination with reducing tariffs, Oz vehicle manufacturers suffered badly, and that's where they have stayed. Volume just hasn't come back. Quote:
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2) Back in the late 80's early 90's, both lib/lab agreed and put through changes to the money system in Aust as they didnt want another colapse like the the godd old GOD DAMM , God Bless America,(USA only mind you) as they had in the 80's and 90's , ( dont invest in USA home market, ouch ) 3) When the feds handed out the sheckels, 99 % of brain dead journos and others forgot , that every time money was spent 10 % went back to the govt. Simple economics, so some of the reserve was given out, but still got some back thanks to tax system. 4) Why didnt foreign companies take note of Australia changes, which a lot of ppl complained that they were harsh, but saved us from iresponsible managment, Allan Bond paid millions for 9 network, Kerry brought it back for a quater of the price, 5) High Aus dollar does hurt, but so do free trade agreements, remember the sugar tax, because gutless Aust Govt gave into the Yanks on that agreement. 6) Australian business's have to start looking elsewhere, and not just mother england and the USA, explore new markets, Simple fact Detroit will shut down Australia car manufacturing, replace it with imports designed for cities( Euro ) , but not much chop for a country like Aust and how many people and familys will buy a two door sedan? SOme logic there, but its North American, |
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Have a happy xmas, enjoy your holidays, but,:
The news in Jan 2014 might not be all that good http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and..._year_20131119 |
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May i ask how many that have posted on this thread actually own a commodore or a falcon, and not a company car?
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I'm one of the causes of all this malarkey. My XR6 got traded in for a Fiesta. I have twice as much fun on urban roads as I ever did in the Falcon. It's wonderfully underpowered but has a great chassis so at urban speeds you feel like a racing driver but you don't need to watch for little vans on the side of the road who want to take your picture.
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Have worked for 4 different OEM Tier 1 suppliers over the years, and retrenched from the middle 2 as local manufacture has dwindled. Current job was also OEM Tier 1, but that work has disappeared too, so this job is shaky as well. New car won't happen until I have some job confidence. |
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When it's ready for replacement, I don't know what i will buy. Hilux/Navara/Ranger/Traiton etc. are highly undesirable (I want a car, not a truck), but nothing else has the load carrying/towing capability that i need on some weekends. |
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What I don't understand is why the government simply gives these industries hand outs. They should be buying shares of the company and looking after their investments not just doling out heaps of cash for no realistic guarantees or purposes.
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GM USA wants our tax payer dollars but doesnt want to help out;
http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013...thousand-40165 typical godams |
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A Holden Cruze could do the job equally as well, and keep some jobs in Adelaide. |
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We also have a free trade agreement with the USA so importing shouldnt be a prob. If they are serious and want my tax dollars, then up the ante on export and get serious. |
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How to build an HSV Gen F
Anyone see any efficiency issues with trucking a car a thousand km, taking bits off, fitting new bits, sending old bits back etc in the build process? |
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Move HSV to Elizabeth?
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Mr GTR, move the HSV component to Elizabeth? have you ever set up a production line? But the point is valid, stripping a built car seems ludicrous but I bet the number crunchers have been there before you. What happens to the stripped components? |
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I would assume the stripped parts remain in a pool of parts for that very purpose.
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Criss crossing states with cars and parts is nowhere near simple |
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