2003 Bathurst 24 hr...

Bump Re-valve · 15 Feb 2004, 02:07 (Ref:874492)

Im interested in how people felt......WAS it Brocks 10th Bathurst...or not?

Boxy · 15 Feb 2004, 03:12 (Ref:874502)

Here we go again! I voted yes. 10 endurance wins at the MOUNT - nothing more nothing less. Whether it was staged or not is another story...

Matt H · 15 Feb 2004, 03:16 (Ref:874503)

but the question didnt state a 10th endurance win, i beleive it was a tenth endurance win, but not his tenth

dont forget he won the brrutes race before the mani event...

pplater · 15 Feb 2004, 04:21 (Ref:874526)

Brock was asked the same question in the media conference afterwads. I was there.

He said something along the lines of:

The 24hr is a young race. in a few years i'll be able t look back on the race and know myself. (whether it was 10)

In my opinion, it is his 13th: B24 is three times better than the 1000.

Hobo high · 15 Feb 2004, 04:29 (Ref:874530)

The man is a legend of australian motorsport ,Give him the respect he deserves and has earn't -10 is 10 in my book and the same for the majority of non sheep holden fans!

A9X05 · 15 Feb 2004, 04:34 (Ref:874534)

Quote:

Originally posted by Boxy
Here we go again! I voted yes. 10 endurance wins at the MOUNT - nothing more nothing less. Whether it was staged or not is another story...

Yeah right on! Jimmy won in a Volvo, didnt he?? that was counted? and as far as the staged bit is concerned, YEAH RIGHT!
Also theres always the knockers that cant stand that a man of his age, (AND THE OTHERS)kicked butt, but sorry, it was GAME OVER!!

jetsetter · 15 Feb 2004, 04:50 (Ref:874538)

It'll always count as 10 in my book, everyone always says how hard it is to win the 1000 & the 24 hour with the various conditions you have to drive through would be a lot harder mentally & physically.

Bump Re-valve · 15 Feb 2004, 04:55 (Ref:874540)

I think the finish was amazing...i hope more races in the future end up like that

pplater · 15 Feb 2004, 04:56 (Ref:874541)

B24 certainly is a tough task. at the moment, though, the 1000 is not an endurance race. it is a 161 lap sprint, a high pressure stoush from start-to-finish. B24 is all about preparation. It is so much more of a team event, and although there isn't as much pressure on the drivers, drving in the rain on worn tyres through slow traffic at 2am presents it's own challenge. yes, It's no. 10.

and kids, please don't suggest that the 24hr was staged; we've been through that before.

Boxy · 15 Feb 2004, 05:09 (Ref:874543)

Don't get me wrong - fine drive I thought and I do consider it a true tenth win, just a bit of funny shennanigans at the end thats all. I was more suprised that Murph got the final stint & not the great man himself.

Tracy · 15 Feb 2004, 05:17 (Ref:874545)

Quote:

Originally posted by Boxy
Don't get me wrong - fine drive I thought and I do consider it a true tenth win, just a bit of funny shennanigans at the end thats all. I was more suprised that Murph got the final stint & not the great man himself.

Hi All

Well, no offense to Brock here at all, but maybe if he was driving for those last laps instead of Murph, we might not be having this poll

Ross Palmer · 15 Feb 2004, 06:39 (Ref:874554)

and "If the dog hadn't stopped in the middle of the road for a p*** it wouldn,t have been run over".

moffman · 15 Feb 2004, 06:50 (Ref:874558)

Sorry folks I say no,fantastic race but different to the 1000.As much as the sports sedans are no longer touring cars,this would be the race that Brocky would have to win to chalk up number 10 in my opinion.

vipernz · 15 Feb 2004, 06:52 (Ref:874559)

Why does it matter who was the driver that finished the race, Brock was part of a team, maybe they should have put the passenger seat in so both could have finished it together, not to sure if the other 2 lads would fit in the back or not thought...

My thoughts, Brock has his 10 wins, why… well, why not, does it matter?

pplater · 15 Feb 2004, 06:53 (Ref:874560)

Yawn.
We're all over the Monaro debate.
and the brock's tenth debate.
and the 'it was rigged' debate.

It's dead. Get over it.

Matt H · 15 Feb 2004, 07:03 (Ref:874564)

well brock has more than 10 wins at bathurst, are we all forgetting the brute race with his son ????

he has won more than ten times at the track, thats a fact.

and it doesnt matter if he wasnt the last driver, was he the last driver when he drove the bathurst 100's ???

moffman · 15 Feb 2004, 07:04 (Ref:874565)

Quote:

Originally posted by pplater
Yawn.
We're all over the Monaro debate.
and the brock's tenth debate.
and the 'it was rigged' debate.

It's dead. Get over it.

And this is significant to the poll in what way exactly?

pplater · 15 Feb 2004, 07:23 (Ref:874578)

The Debate has been on and off for ages, and I've had enough of people spraying procar for letting the monaro race, sick of opinionated taxi fans argueing whether it was really brockie's tenth win, and if more people claim that brock was handed the win, or whatever it will only further denigrate a community of intellegent motorsport enthusiasts. Everyone has their own opinion, thats okay, but I simply don't want to see another arguement on this topic, it's been done too many times.

Matt H · 15 Feb 2004, 07:26 (Ref:874580)

pplater, totally agrree, lets just end the thread, i dont wanna see a s... fight

Sterling · 15 Feb 2004, 07:36 (Ref:874586)

Has he won 10? No. It's not the same event. Derek Bell has won 5 Le Mans 24 Hrs, jacky Ickyx has won 6. If they had won, or for that matter have won, another event on La Sarthe would it / or has it beeen counted as No 6 or 7, NO. Peter Brock has won 9 Baturst 500's / 1000's. The Le Mans 24 Hrs has changed classes / formats that many times over the years, however it is the same event in essence. The Bathurst 24 Hrs is a new and unique event on an amazing track and should be viewed as such. The Bathurst 500 / 1000 is in essence the same event.
Peter Brock Bathurst 500 / 1000 9 wins
Peter Brock Bathurs 24 Hrs 1 win
Each event has it's own character and Prestige. Let's not confuse the two.

moffman · 15 Feb 2004, 07:43 (Ref:874589)

Well said Sterling.

jetsetter · 15 Feb 2004, 07:46 (Ref:874590)

Some people don't want the 24 hour counted but yet in the years that we had two Bathurst the drivers in the V8 Bathurst all counted their victories even though the 2 litre race was the official race.

Sterling · 15 Feb 2004, 07:51 (Ref:874593)

Two events on the same circuit in the same year can not be counted as the same event. Even if they have the same format. In this case same format different specification of cars. I know that is hard to reconcile with the change of spec over the years for the Bathurst 500 / 1000. Nevertheless there was only one event on the circuit each year then. It's not a perfect argument, just an argument.

Sterling · 15 Feb 2004, 07:52 (Ref:874594)

By the way I apologise for the psuedonym. My mistake in registering. Sould be VJ Angelo

racer69 · 15 Feb 2004, 10:50 (Ref:874680)

Sterling, people are prepared to say the winner of the current 1000km race is counted as a winner of the same race that the ARDC rane betweem 1963-1998. The current 1000km race is a different, which started in 1997, yet everyone seems to say it's the same.

If the current 1000km race counts, then so does the Bathurst 24 Hours. Brock has 10 'Bathurst' wins.

And funnily enough, Brock won the his first Bathurst race by himself, won 2-8 with two drivers, won number 9 with three drivers, and won his tenth with 4 drivers.

View Poll Results: Was 2003 Bathurst 24 hr Brock's 10th Bathurst win?
yes	22	50.00%
no	22	50.00%
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