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Old 7 Feb 2018, 11:44 (Ref:3799300)   #346
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Pretty much as I would see it too, Mike.

P.S. Is that Vince's car behind you in your avatar?
Ah, yes it is! That was Mallory few years ago when CSCC had the modsports / SS revival race day. Photo courtesy of David Stallard.
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Old 7 Feb 2018, 13:21 (Ref:3799320)   #347
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Ah, yes it is! That was Mallory few years ago when CSCC had the modsports / SS revival race day. Photo courtesy of David Stallard.
You should bring it out to play in CSCC SS/Modsports again, Mike. Only 4 double header meetings this year, I think.
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Old 9 Feb 2018, 15:55 (Ref:3799949)   #348
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It could be that JD Classics have sold Vinceís Broadspeed car then. They bought it from the great man and have raced it over the last few seasons. The price would be about right for a car with that provenance. (I know how much JD paid for it ) A modern built Cologne spec Gp2 car also changed hands quietly last year, but donít think for anything like that suggested money. IMHO a Special / Super Saloon would not be worth anything like your figure, even with known history and provenance. Despite their performance and looks, they have limited appeal and limited opportunities for racing. Again, my opinion.....
Like many serious collectors around the world, some are prepared to own a car that is special, especially if it is a one off and has been built by well known designers and fabricators, then the sky is the limit to have what no-one else has got.
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Old 9 Feb 2018, 17:25 (Ref:3799987)   #349
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Like many serious collectors around the world, some are prepared to own a car that is special, especially if it is a one off and has been built by well known designers and fabricators, then the sky is the limit to have what no-one else has got.
Yes, but I think it’s wishful thinking to include a spaceframe silhouette Escort in that description....

And you really need more than one person desperate to buy to get a high price!

Not being negative, that’s just my opinion as a racer and collector.....
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Old 9 Feb 2018, 20:09 (Ref:3800057)   #350
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I have sold a few Grp B cars through COYS and RM, some only just getting my money back after catalogue fees, commission etc and a couple making good profit, enough to pay for a holiday home, all because two people fought for them.

I have asked about this Geoff Wood Escort and figures given to me unofficially was between 180k and 240k, so even-stevens for Spec 'R' if they fully restore it to a good quality. As you say Mike, it all depends on who is bidding and who is determined to own such a rare beast and for certain I would like to own it.
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Old 10 Feb 2018, 08:33 (Ref:3800187)   #351
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I have sold a few Grp B cars through COYS and RM, some only just getting my money back after catalogue fees, commission etc and a couple making good profit, enough to pay for a holiday home, all because two people fought for them.
That's what's needed, definitely....

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I have asked about this Geoff Wood Escort and figures given to me unofficially was between 180k and 240k, so even-stevens for Spec 'R' if they fully restore it to a good quality. As you say Mike, it all depends on who is bidding and who is determined to own such a rare beast and for certain I would like to own it.
I think those figures are very optimistic, but of course it's only my opinion and immaterial until (and if) the car comes up for sale at some point. Oh, and if you would like to own it, maybe we should start talking the price down, not up......
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Old 13 Feb 2018, 17:06 (Ref:3801023)   #352
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Good calming words there. It was beginning to get hyped up just a little too much. A great car all the same, and a credit to your dad.
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 10:25 (Ref:3801236)   #353
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What happened to GWOOD1170's post from yesterday?
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Old 14 Feb 2018, 10:31 (Ref:3801240)   #354
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What happened to GWOOD1170's post from yesterday?
It was deleted along with the previous post he was responding to. It was felt the best way to deal with the original comment.
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It was deleted along with the previous post he was responding to. It was felt the best way to deal with the original comment.
Thanks Mike, whilst the first post was not intended to be malicous, it clearly offended Geoff's son so it was the right thing to do.

Must say I am looking forward to seeing the car when it's restored!
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I knew Geoff Wood from his Mini days and was astounded when he came onto the grids with this advanced space framed Escort. None of us had really seen such a well fabricated space frame, although some of us did have semi-space frames and as privateers knew how financially sapping it was to develop any National SS car.
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I knew Geoff Wood from his Mini days and was astounded when he came onto the grids with this advanced space framed Escort. None of us had really seen such a well fabricated space frame, although some of us did have semi-space frames and as privateers knew how financially sapping it was to develop any National SS car.
Perhaps an apology to Geoff Wood's son would have been a more appropriate response.
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Perhaps an apology to Geoff Wood's son would have been a more appropriate response.
Thank you for your suggestion of an apology. The family was very upset at the 'deleted' comment. It was ill-informed & especially insensitive as sadly our Father is not with us any longer. As a family this find has been truly wonderful & also very emotional. We look forward to the day when we hear the car start up once again. It will bring back many memories of our childhoods at the race circuits. Such a shame Dad is not here to see it & also to help in its renovation.
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Just found this , the advert for the car for sale in July 1977 sadly as part of the late Phil Winter's entire racing stock clearance.
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Just looked again at this advert and it appears that the car was fitted with a Nicholson 2 litre BDG when raced by Phil Winter rather than the Hart 1840cc BDA engine that Geoff ran and which appears to be in the car now.

Also notice that Phil's estate was selling a 'Foster' trailer. This was a little enterprise my brother and I had going in the mid/late '70s. I worked with a John Foster who had a sideline making horse boxes and agricultural trailers and I asked him to make a 4 wheel race car trailer for me which he did. We only made around 6 trailers and one was purchased by Phil. One went to the Bristol area and not sure where the others went.
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Sounds like the trailers would be collectors items now, then! If they survived....
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