[VASC17AGP] Rolex Australian Grand Prix, Albert Park 23-26 Mar - Page 6

simonracer · 24 Mar 2017, 05:04 (Ref:3721060)

I would be surprised if Nick does goes out again this weekend, or at least not until tomorrow. The rear suspension will surely have to be rebuilt at least. Nick looked pretty shaken as well.

In any case I think both he and Holdsworth are both pretty fortunate, that was about a door length away from being a horrific t-bone.

simonracer · 24 Mar 2017, 05:06 (Ref:3721061)

According to Speedcafe Percat is unscathed, though he suffocated somewhat on petrol fumes that entered the car. Apparently it is unlikely that the car will return to the track.

TSR · 24 Mar 2017, 05:15 (Ref:3721062)

Charlie said his car will most probably out till Sunday, it has twisted rails

Ospi · 24 Mar 2017, 05:27 (Ref:3721063)

Honestly there's little to gain by the mechanics working all nighters for this event. The data gained here isn't critically relevant either.

peckstar · 24 Mar 2017, 06:04 (Ref:3721064)

Holdsworth Commodore to undergo off-site repairs

Maybe Sunday

Ospi · 24 Mar 2017, 07:05 (Ref:3721071)

More big damage this time for Gis and moffat.

Ospi · 24 Mar 2017, 07:13 (Ref:3721072)

Interesting comments from Dane regarding the Penske wealth and hoping it isn't the determining factor in success, little rich I would have thought.

Umai Naa · 24 Mar 2017, 07:36 (Ref:3721076)

Mr Penske's wealth is far greater than what many perceive Mr Dane has.

**GTRMagic** · 24 Mar 2017, 08:10 (Ref:3721080)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Mr Penske's wealth is far greater than what many perceive Mr Dane has.

If you tune that thinking a little, perhaps the juice in the story is a sleight on Mr Penske spending his/his company's money on racing, while Mr Dane generally finds commercial sponsor money to operate.. it is a HUGE difference...

Gaz170 · 24 Mar 2017, 08:31 (Ref:3721084)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

If you tune that thinking a little, perhaps the juice in the story is a sleight on Mr Penske spending his/his company's money on racing, while Mr Dane generally finds commercial sponsor money to operate.. it is a HUGE difference...

Possibly, but Penske never enters anything without going all out to win. And he would be looking at the bigger picture that increased success will bring in more sponsorship dollars.

Umai Naa · 24 Mar 2017, 09:00 (Ref:3721088)

Only a fool goes motor racing with his own money.

fomoco · 24 Mar 2017, 09:23 (Ref:3721096)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ospi

Interesting comments from Dane regarding the Penske wealth and hoping it isn't the determining factor in success, little rich I would have thought.

that's a bit strange from a bloke who came in a brought everything.
Ooh I have a challenger , better let of some media crap to deflect the way I did it.

10 pound pom, probably got 5 dollar wife from the Pacific.
Sorry Roland, Roger has a bit more nonce than you

Do you need a taxi to Heathrow , there sir,

fomoco · 24 Mar 2017, 09:28 (Ref:3721097)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Mr Penske's wealth is far greater than what many perceive Mr Dane has.

Mr Dane arrived here and built(re pillaged everything he could) nothing against that, good business skills, but *****ing and whingeing for years, he now has serious competitor.

Ooh poor Roland, can't shun Penske away easily as PRA.

suck it up or p off to the homeland.
10 pound tourist

**GTRMagic** · 24 Mar 2017, 09:50 (Ref:3721101)

Stuck Throttle For SdS

**GTRMagic** · 24 Mar 2017, 10:03 (Ref:3721103)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Only a fool goes motor racing with his own money.

You might discover the income from the brand headlining on #12 and #17 might actually be less than the one on the rear wing of those cars..

fomoco · 24 Mar 2017, 10:20 (Ref:3721106)

So was the Mostert/ SVG incident , any different to Whincup/witerbottom

or have they moved the goal post

haven't seen any footage ??????

From Supercars web site

Totally agree.. Gis even said in the interview he seen Chaz pull out for the move and thought his too far back so I turned in" didn't leave any room whatsoever.

Mixer · 24 Mar 2017, 10:22 (Ref:3721107)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fomoco

that's a bit strange from a bloke who came in a brought everything. Ooh I have a challenger , better let of some media crap to deflect the way I did it.

Roland Dane bought Briggs Motorsport in 2003.

In 2003, Max Wilson finished 17th in the series and Dean Canto 24th.

In 2004, Roland's first full year, Paul Radisich finished 19th, and Max Wilson 28th.

in 2005, Campbell Little and Craig Lowndes joined forces to finish 2nd, losing to Rick Kelly in the controversial Philip Island happenings.

Other than Lowndes, most everybody at 888RE has been a home grown talent, and from 2007 the team really hit its straps, with Lowndes, and Jamie Whincup, who had been case off by GRM.

You really can't in all seriousness say Dane "bought" anything. Surely it costs money to go racing - but Dane put the best people in the best roles, and got the best out of them. With Vodafone and Red Bull, 888 put together the best sponsorship packages ever seen in V8Supercars, by anybody.

Apart from hating on a winner, I can't see how anybody can begrudge 888 the success that they earnt.

fomoco · 24 Mar 2017, 10:35 (Ref:3721112)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

Roland Dane bought Briggs Motorsport in 2003.

In 2003, Max Wilson finished 17th in the series and Dean Canto 24th.

In 2004, Roland's first full year, Paul Radisich finished 19th, and Max Wilson 28th.

in 2005, Campbell Little and Craig Lowndes joined forces to finish 2nd, losing to Rick Kelly in the controversial Philip Island happenings.

Other than Lowndes, most everybody at 888RE has been a home grown talent, and from 2007 the team really hit its straps, with Lowndes, and Jamie Whincup, who had been case off by GRM.

You really can't in all seriousness say Dane "bought" anything. Surely it costs money to go racing - but Dane put the best people in the best roles, and got the best out of them. With Vodafone and Red Bull, 888 put together the best sponsorship packages ever seen in V8Supercars, by anybody.

Apart from hating on a winner, I can't see how anybody can begrudge 888 the success that they earnt.

Mixer you didn't read it .
I have nothing against T888 and their success. But Roland, has a tendency to whinge.
Now he has serious competition, what does he do
Whinge.
geez Louise

and this years redbull cars, aren't the most pleasant looking, preferred last years look.

Mixer · 24 Mar 2017, 10:40 (Ref:3721115)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fomoco

that's a bit strange from a bloke who came in a brought everything. Ooh I have a challenger , better let of some media crap to deflect the way I did it.

This is your quote which you're now trying to distance yourself from.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fomoco

10 pound pom, probably got 5 dollar wife from the Pacific. Sorry Roland, Roger has a bit more nonce than you

And this is an ad hominem attack.

Roland has single handedly smashed this series open. His team has won every 7 out of the last 9 drivers championships, and his cars have won 8 of them. His professionalism and ability to get premium sponsorships have put previously great teams in the shade.

Your argument just does not hold water, mate.

billy bleach · 24 Mar 2017, 10:44 (Ref:3721116)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fomoco

that's a bit strange from a bloke who came in a brought everything.
Ooh I have a challenger , better let of some media crap to deflect the way I did it.

10 pound pom, probably got 5 dollar wife from the Pacific.
Sorry Roland, Roger has a bit more nonce than you

Do you need a taxi to Heathrow , there sir,

Never a Pom he WAS Irish but is now Australian sorry he is one of you but was never one of us!

peckstar · 24 Mar 2017, 11:14 (Ref:3721122)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fomoco

So was the Mostert/ SVG incident , any different to Whincup/witerbottom

or have they moved the goal post

haven't seen any footage ??????

From Supercars web site

Totally agree.. Gis even said in the interview he seen Chaz pull out for the move and thought his too far back so I turned in" didn't leave any room whatsoever.

I didnt think Chaz was down the inside enough this time, I felt whincup was. That's my opinion as a Ford fan.

Moff was ona weird line which didnt help things

Umai Naa · 24 Mar 2017, 11:36 (Ref:3721130)

Mr Dane hasn't been married for about 20 years.

Mr Penske has effectively come into the series the same way. Bought into an established team, and built things up from there.

Tourer · 24 Mar 2017, 12:08 (Ref:3721136)

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Never a Pom he WAS Irish but is now Australian sorry he is one of you but was never one of us!

Being Irish means that he was a Pom - the term can include anyone from those islands.

one five five · 24 Mar 2017, 12:44 (Ref:3721150)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mixer

In 2003, Max Wilson finished 17th in the series and Dean Canto 24th.

Semantics really, I agree with everything you writing with regards to Dane, but Wilson drove for DJR in 2003, Radisich was driving for Briggs alongside Canto.

Mixer · 24 Mar 2017, 12:58 (Ref:3721152)

Quote:

Originally Posted by one five five

Semantics really, I agree with everything you writing with regards to Dane, but Wilson drove for DJR in 2003, Radisich was driving for Briggs alongside Canto.

I stand corrected, and The Rat finished 10th that year.

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