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Old 16 Jan 2004, 13:42 (Ref:840354)   #1
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Ferrari 655 to have unusual rear wing

Todt is claiming that the rear wing on the new car (to be called the 655?) will be "very nice" and may "be surprising" to some. The story (in Italian):

http://www.gazzetta.it/primi_piani/m...73271132.shtml
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 13:47 (Ref:840363)   #2
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I read it; all I can say is that Todt's announcement is bound to spice the wait up!

After FW26's walrus nose, if also ferrari put on the track something unexpected, well, we could remeber this silly season as one of the most "creative" ever, or, at least, in years.
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 13:55 (Ref:840379)   #3
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Or it could just be to take some publicity away from Williams ang get people talking about the cars (am I really this cynical?).
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 14:02 (Ref:840391)   #4
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climb should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridclimb should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
No problem, Wrex, everybody knows you are..

From what I could see since he's at Ferrari, it's not in JT's style to launch proclamations in order to attract he world media attention.
BTW, Ferrari has always had it, without any need of such announces...
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 14:03 (Ref:840393)   #5
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ralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridralf fan should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
maybe it wont have a rear wing at all!! or is that too much to hope?

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Old 16 Jan 2004, 14:18 (Ref:840412)   #6
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I'm glad to see some design innovations, that may actually be noticable, and prominent. For the last couple of years, the design changes have been so subtle as to hardly be noticed.

Maybe they'll go back to the delta wing style of the old March F1 cars, at least I think it was the March, but whoever, it was a very cool look!
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 14:29 (Ref:840423)   #7
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Any idea why they called it the 655?
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 15:34 (Ref:840518)   #8
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Maybe is will incorporate a big fan to help give massive downforce.

Oh no, someone's already tried that.

I wonder who that was?.....
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 17:39 (Ref:840664)   #9
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That was Gordon Murray, and the infamous Brabham BT46 fan car, from, I think, 1977. Niki Lauda won the Swedish GP of 1978 in the car. It was banned soon after, I believe.
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 17:42 (Ref:840672)   #10
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Perhaps it will be some sort of interesting double wing arrangement, or maybe something moulded in one piece.

Anyway, it's about time some interesting new steps are taken by the teams.
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 18:36 (Ref:840732)   #11
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Maybe it will be as one piece with the engine cover and swoop up........no, that's just stupid isn't it?
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 18:48 (Ref:840743)   #12
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I thought the rear wing regs were quite tight in what the allowed (eg 2 elements)
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 18:58 (Ref:840756)   #13
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"Bella ala anteriore"
this mean the beautiful anterior wing
anterior is frontal
hence a new Beautiful FRONt wing
not rear or Posteriore- posterior
so what do the regs say about the fornt wing??what does ferrari want to say about it?
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 20:36 (Ref:840855)   #14
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Ooops. You are correct - front wing. I didn't catch that, nor did climb!
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 21:05 (Ref:840884)   #15
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Beautiful front wing ,eh? Can't say there's that much scope to make a beautiful front wing, but there you go.
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a little translation - best I can get from same source.
Of the Ferrari new the only thing that that admits is there will be a "beautiful front wing, could be one surprised". On rubbers there is confidence in the Bridgestone, although the first tests seem to tell of a new Michelin progress: "They are Japanese - Todt beats again -, work with method and rigor. The only thing that we do not have to make is to enter in the panic. Not there is some reason, I say it clearly, are convinced that we will make great contests ".
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so maybe that will have a big fan on the front wing?!!
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That was Gordon Murray, and the infamous Brabham BT46 fan car, from, I think, 1977. Niki Lauda won the Swedish GP of 1978 in the car. It was banned soon after, I believe.
The fan was very offically banned more forced out by other teams, the fact that Bernie was team principle at the time probably means he got something in exchange but yeah if a car turns up with a fan inside the correct 'box' space it only has to pass impact testing and it's all good.
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Whats wrong with a "radical" rear wing,everyone elses cars are being "radical" this season.
A "very nice" rear wing doesn't sound very fast.
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Armco, the whole thing is the rear wings are under strict rules this season. larger endplates and two elements.
and the fact that the article talks about a new "beautiful" front wing. that is what the big deal is about.
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Old 17 Jan 2004, 07:47 (Ref:841293)   #22
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Possibly using tusks? I remember Todt or Ferrari members mentioned possibly going down that route.

But on the other hand, Ferrari would have seen the Williams at the same time we did, so if they were to copy it, i would think it would be too late. Especially if they were going to twin keel.

...unless Ferrari had already thought of it.
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Any idea why they called it the 655?
Been thinking about that, maybe something to do with Michaels 6 WDC's and Ferrari's 5 consecutive WCC's?
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Yeah the 6 would definitely be the 6 WDC's....
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Its Ferrari and I can't see something all that radical coming out of them, the team is always about development rather than an innovative leap in years of late
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