Massa engine penalty

Marbot · 29 Sep 2006, 09:21 (Ref:1722764)

Probably deserving of a thread on its own (for now

).

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/54722

Doc Hollywood · 29 Sep 2006, 09:23 (Ref:1722766)

Thats a bit crap, Im not a huge fan of his but he's been good for Schumachers title fight.

newoutsider · 29 Sep 2006, 09:29 (Ref:1722769)

Shame for Massa, but same for everyone if they take an engine change. Its not crap, its the rule.

Marbot · 29 Sep 2006, 09:32 (Ref:1722771)

It's the first time for a long time that Ferrari have done this.How far are they pushing?,bearing in mind that they need a decent power plant for next season.Will reliability cost TGF the title?

Last2LiftOff · 29 Sep 2006, 11:51 (Ref:1722884)

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Will reliability cost TGF the title?

Looked to me like his Bridgestones might be more suspect. 2nd practice they were literally falling apart. I think they'd better have that sorted out before Sunday.

N I Tram · 29 Sep 2006, 12:02 (Ref:1722894)

Not great from a racing perspective, but it's nice to see the luck even itself out a bit. Even though I want Alonso to win the title, it'd be a shame if an engine penalty for Schumacher affected things.

DSM · 29 Sep 2006, 12:27 (Ref:1722924)

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Originally Posted by N I Tram

Not great from a racing perspective, but it's nice to see the luck even itself out a bit. Even though I want Alonso to win the title, it'd be a shame if an engine penalty for Schumacher affected things.

Agreed, but the odds are that the outcome will depend on some artificial factor, such as a pitstop, or some pointlessly overpenalised misdemeanour, rather than the relative abilities of the cars or drivers.

**Adam43** · 29 Sep 2006, 12:39 (Ref:1722939)

Like '86 and all those other years.

Knowlesy · 29 Sep 2006, 13:02 (Ref:1722965)

A shame for Massa, but at least the main title fight will be (hopefully) reliable!

I prefer Alonso versus Michael than Alonso versus Massa & Michael.

Last2LiftOff · 29 Sep 2006, 13:04 (Ref:1722968)

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Originally Posted by knowlesy

A shame for Massa, but at least the main title fight will be (hopefully) reliable!

I prefer Alonso versus Michael than Alonso versus Massa & Michael.

Very good point Knowles. Likewise I'm sure. Far be it from Felipe to intentionally impede anyone but...still.

chillibowl · 29 Sep 2006, 15:15 (Ref:1723103)

this imo is a pretty big story. just so many stories and questions comming together to make this a great battle.
-were Massa and MS running the same spec engine? will it affect MS race strat?
-does this serve as a counterpoint to Renaults engine problems as of late?
-will concerns about having the best engine prior to the freeze in Japan affect the Championship?

this is all just too much to ask for, artificial or not, i havent been this excited about the end of season for a long time (better than '03)

Knowlesy · 29 Sep 2006, 15:17 (Ref:1723106)

Ferrari suspect this will not signal problems for Michael's engine. The logic behind this is clear.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/54746

chillibowl · 29 Sep 2006, 15:23 (Ref:1723117)

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Originally Posted by knowlesy

The logic behind this is clear.

by that do you mean, that RB would never admit during the race weekend that there could potentialy be a more significant problem?

Knowlesy · 29 Sep 2006, 15:24 (Ref:1723118)

No, I believe his reasonings there. And judging by the season pattern, he is probably right.

He has grounds for optimism let's say!

But certainly, he won't exactly come out and say Michael has a duff engine, it is hopeless and all is lost.

climb · 29 Sep 2006, 15:30 (Ref:1723126)

Good point knowlesy, that's exactly what I'd have said!

chillibowl · 29 Sep 2006, 15:31 (Ref:1723128)

true their engines have been reliable to date so i should also be inclined to accept his comments at face value.
but is the situation similar to that of Renault's? with the final spec engine before the freeze due by Japan, most of the teams have been experiencing problems with their final upgrades for the year. imo RB response only hightens my uncertainty, rather that allieviating my fears.

Knowlesy · 29 Sep 2006, 15:33 (Ref:1723132)

I guess we will find out in due course!

chillibowl · 29 Sep 2006, 15:52 (Ref:1723147)

yep! its pretty awesome

Pingguest · 29 Sep 2006, 19:21 (Ref:1723293)

I hope the world championship won't be decided by the regulations... Hopefully Schumacher's engine will last the whole weekend, and we might see a fantastic battle between Alonso and Schumi.

Marbot · 29 Sep 2006, 19:47 (Ref:1723318)

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Originally Posted by Pingguest

I hope the world championship won't be decided by the regulations...

It'll probably come down to tyres rather than cars or drivers,but there you go.

Watched highlights of last weekends Champcar race today.The commentators waxed lyrical about how much the Bridgestone option tyre had improved the racing.We can only hope.

chillibowl · 30 Sep 2006, 07:38 (Ref:1723485)

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Originally Posted by Pingguest

I hope the world championship won't be decided by the regulations... Hopefully Schumacher's engine will last the whole weekend, and we might see a fantastic battle between Alonso and Schumi.

i too hope we see a real driver vs. driver battle, but that it be decided upon a manufacture's ability o build a reliable car...is that not inheirntly a part of the competition?

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