What is Bernie's job?

[Adam43]

It seems round here that everything that is bad is Bernie's fault!

But what is his actual job? Who is he sticking up for? What is his fault (at all or completely)? If he wasn't there would it be any different (my guess for this last one is that it would be very similar, but things would happen slower!).

Is it his fault that there is no overtaking/we are not at [insert] GP name/the FIA's ruling over Ralf/tyres/or whatever else you wish to insert!

Perhaps we can go further too. What differences would we have seen if Rindt hadn't have been tragically killed? And what would be different if the original Concorde agreement hadn't happened. All this should give us insight into what Bernie has done for the sport.

What do you know about Mr Bernard Ecclestone?

Here is a starting point http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/cref-eccber.html

Post your thoughts (normal forum rules apply )...

[Asp]

Well, this has been said countless times before, but, if it wasn't for the little big man, I doubt as many of us would be interested in F1. Only behind the Football World Cup and probably the Olympics in terms of viewers nowadays - and they occur every 4 years, not 16 times per year. And the Bernster has to take a huge amount of credit for that.

[Smokey 6 litre]

Born in IPSH*T (slip of keyboard ), i hate him now.
All of that i i still cant see why he has a lovely wife, could it be the money? surely not!

[dretceterini]

Ernie Schmecklebone is a putz who would be king...

[RWC]

Used to like him,now absolutaly hate him.
He may have done good stuff for the sport in the distant past but since about the early nineties he has had ONE THING on his mind-to claim f1 as his own and milk it for as many millions as he can get!!!

Maclaren,williams and tyrell tried to curb his meglomania back then but the fia eventually took bern's side(don't get me started on max!at least bernie admited once that he is dishonest)
The fia saw a way to use their power to make some dosh and sold the comercial rights to bern for a few hundred mill for the period of one hundred years(voted in by a select few at some ungodly hour of the morning in a secret meeting).
As bizare as that deal sounds it is unfortunately true

getting an idea of why he is reviled yet?

[JimW]

Originally posted by Asp
Well, this has been said countless times before, but, if it wasn't for the little big man, I doubt as many of us would be interested in F1. Only behind the Football World Cup and probably the Olympics in terms of viewers nowadays - and they occur every 4 years, not 16 times per year. And the Bernster has to take a huge amount of credit for that.

Interesting. Asp and I must come at the sport from very different views because I associate Bernie with everything that I hate about F1 and which has made me take my interests elsewhere (in motorsport).

Sure, F1 is a successful business and he deserves the credit for that (in addition to all the money the success has made him) but he has taken the sport away; at least for me.

Regards

Jim

[Asp]

One thing I have to add, it's not just Bernie who gets all the money from F1 commercial deals etc. OK, he's hardly done badly out of it [], but neither have any of the team bossess. As F1 is more commercially successful, they can get more money out of sponsors, etc.

Of course, he has his faults - but someone in such a position of power is bound never to please everyone. Don't ever think I'm the blokes biggest fan - far from it - but I do believe he often gets a huge amount of stick for things that are either better in the long run or maybe not his fault.

[peteconnors]

I think his job is to manage the formula one circus. In the process he manages to make himself (and many other people in F1) very, very wealthy. I'm sure he doesn't lose too much sleep if he annoys the odd person every now and again...

[VeeEightFan]

Have any of you ever spoken with Bernieor met him socially?It replects badly on those whorevile him for making money.Does this indicate a high degree of jealousyfromsome poormal adjujstedpeople who have a passion for trying to be-little successful people.
Without BernieF1 todaywould not the the first class sportingentertfainment or technicaltour de force that itis. Also Ron Dennis, Sirt Frank Williamset al would not be a wealthy asthey are.I applaud Bernie for doing what he has donefor F1 and motorsportfans throughtout the world. If it has made him richthengood luck to him. He made the movesthat no one else was game to make. That not only takes courage but also guts anda quality brain.
Bravo Bernie. I applaud you.

[RWC]

So you think they should be happy because they have those $??!!
They would have have 10 times more if bernie took only 20% like any other agent
OR-
looking from the other direction..maybe they don't like the reputation bernie is giving f1

[ASCII Man]

Originally posted by VeeEightFan
Have any of you ever spoken with Bernieor met him socially?It replects badly on those whorevile him for making money.Does this indicate a high degree of jealousyfromsome poormal adjujstedpeople who have a passion for trying to be-little successful people.
Without BernieF1 todaywould not the the first class sportingentertfainment or technicaltour de force that itis. Also Ron Dennis, Sirt Frank Williamset al would not be a wealthy asthey are.I applaud Bernie for doing what he has donefor F1 and motorsportfans throughtout the world. If it has made him richthengood luck to him. He made the movesthat no one else was game to make. That not only takes courage but also guts anda quality brain.
Bravo Bernie. I applaud you.

Whorevile? (i suspect this one is an insult)
Adjujstedpeople?
Richthengood?
sportingentertfainment??

:confused:

[Wrex]

Originally posted by RWC
They would have have 10 times more if bernie took only 20% like any other agent

What an odd (and totally niave) comment. Just out of curiosity, how much do you think he gets?

[climb]

His management skills canno be disputed; they us makes them work is another matter!

About overtaking problems, he certainly is the main responsible, since he made partnership with Mr. Tilke, who perfectly succeded in spoiling most F1 tracks, with narrow space and no straighs.

[ASCII Man]

In 1993, Bernie Ecclestone was the highest paid man in England with a salary of $45 million...

[Glen]

Originally posted by climb
About overtaking problems, he certainly is the main responsible, since he made partnership with Mr. Tilke, who perfectly succeded in spoiling most F1 tracks, with narrow space and no straighs.

Like Sepang? - oh no, that is hugely wide with two consecutive long straights.

[Phoenix1]

When Bernie took over F1 was a circus just as it is now and all the elements where there, cars, tracks, drivers and some money. What F1 needs though was someone who would get their nose bend out of joint once or twice without giving up and although not always being popular, and yes, probably taking abit to much percent wise, he has done alot to get F1 to be the pinicle of motorsports in the world. Before Bernie F1 was sometimes show as British GP highlights and so forth, no one really know about it now it is bigger than everything but the World Cup and the Olympics in terms of viewing figures. These are once every four years in which time F1 has around 64 races. So yes Bernie makes mistakes, and once someone gets tarnised with a brush of negativity it's hard for people to see the positive plus newspapers and the media do not survive on happy stories EG If Bernie demanded money of say Minardi it would be big news, Bernie gives money to Minardi like he did the media go, oh that was nice but hey he has billions and that's it. So yeah you get good and bad with everything but like the fat from a large double chocolate chip chocolate icecream with toffee and chocolate spread topped off with cream it's worth it.

Any one thing we should get a poll? A overall in Bernie good for F1 since he came in all those years ago, not jsut on the last few years?

[Armco Bender]

[vatuloa]

Barhrain, India and Russia are just 3 things that come to mind about what Bernie does
From Pitpass.com
Tickets for the inaugural Bahrain GP, scheduled for 4 April 2004, will go on sale next week.
The tickets will go on sale internationally next weekend to coincide with the Italian GP.

Shaikh Fawaz bin Mohammed Al Khalifa, president of the General Organisation for Youth and Sports (Goys) president and the Bahrain International Circuit (BIC), has announced that the 2004 Bahrain GP will be officially launched next weekend at Monza, when the event logo will also be unveiled.

"Everyone is optimistic of the success of the launch," says Shaikh Fawaz, "and we are quite sure that we would achieve our set targets. We have set up a favourable ground for investment and it is now left to the investors and businessmen to make use of this great opportunity."

[climb]

Originally posted by ASCII Man
In 1993, Bernie Ecclestone was the highest paid man in England with a salary of $45 million...

In 2001, if i'm not wrong, he still was the first, hie earnings being close to $170 million.. oh poorboy!