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Old 4 Sep 2003, 22:39 (Ref:708527)   #1
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JV to replace Monty?

Though this rumour is nothing new, A friend of mine tried to convince me he caught wind of this through TSN giving it a little more legs. What do we know/think?
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Old 4 Sep 2003, 22:42 (Ref:708531)   #2
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Montoya has a contract with Williams until 2005.
McLaren is full until 2005.
Ferrari is full until 2005 or 6.

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Old 4 Sep 2003, 22:48 (Ref:708539)   #3
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think.... JV's finished in F1 at the end of the season
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Old 4 Sep 2003, 22:48 (Ref:708540)   #4
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-JV has achieved nothing in 5 years since leaving Williams

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-There are many younger drivers out there who have proved to be equally fast if not faster, for a fraction of the price (economically and in terms of disruption to the team PR etc.)
-FW won't want to go backwards, JV had his time, it's gone now
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Old 4 Sep 2003, 23:07 (Ref:708554)   #5
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I personally don't think JV will leave F1 until he wins a WDC for Ferrari(That’s if Ferrari doesn't implode!!). That won't be for a couple of seasons so he needs to keep his chops up somewhere. Just give this guy a reliable, fast car and he will prove his worth.
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Old 4 Sep 2003, 23:47 (Ref:708582)   #6
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I am with you, Apexx. I still believe...somehow.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 00:11 (Ref:708592)   #7
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Thank you on JV's behalf Miss Hardt!!
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 00:22 (Ref:708594)   #8
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 00:24 (Ref:708598)   #9
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Whether he leaves or not won't be his choice anymore.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 00:30 (Ref:708604)   #10
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Know: Sir Frank Williams belongs to the school of thought that you don't pay good money for nothing.

Know: JV stiffed him once in the past and Sir Frank has a long memory.

Know: Jacques makes way more money than he's earning.

Think: The only way Jacques will get a drive with Williams is if he pays them.

Think: Jacques would be mad to drive at Ferrari and be mercilessly compared to his father, who was Ferrari's god. Recall that in his younger days he tried to drive for an Italian team and had to be jerked out of Euruope and hidden away in Japan to learn how to drive.

Think: Jacques is finished as a driver but would be wonderful fun in the commentary box. Also think this would inspire TGF to retire.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 01:01 (Ref:708624)   #11
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Think: TGF would veto the appointment thru clauses in his contract
Think: JV has had the golden opportunity to turn BARF1 into something special, instead it is a laughing stock
Think: JV would be lucky to get a gig at Minardi based on current form & total disgust for promotional work with sponsors, and then only if he brought cash
Think: Sir Frank seems impressed with Mark Webber....
Wish: Sir Frank signs Mark Webber up, ditches Ralf.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 01:07 (Ref:708627)   #12
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JV still has more credence in the pitlane than the popular media might have you believe! Keep your minds open.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 01:24 (Ref:708633)   #13
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He may have this year but I can't see him around next year unless he wants to pay from a Drive
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 02:20 (Ref:708659)   #14
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JV is clearly not doing so well this year. I think he has more than he's delivering, but the question is what does he have left? Why would they pick him when his teammate is driving faster?
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 02:43 (Ref:708675)   #15
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Know: Sir Frank Williams belongs to the school of thought that you don't pay good money for nothing.
Is Ralf included on this way of thinking ?..., Sorry, but I don´t think so.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 03:39 (Ref:708699)   #16
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Perhaps Deuschemarks are contributing to that particular bill Speed as opposed to British Pounds
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 06:46 (Ref:708795)   #18
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I thought I heard a rumour that Williams had told JV he would be welcome back if the opportunity ever arose.

Personally I'm of the opinion that given the right car he'll be back up there. So I hope he does replace Montoya when he does move on.

I suspect that JV is a bit like Mansell, Give him a car capable of winning and he'll drive it a good deal faster than it is supposed to be able to go but give him a car that isn't capable of winning and he can't do a thing with it. They drive from the heart you see, If there hearts not in it all the speed flies south for the winter.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 06:57 (Ref:708801)   #19
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Know:JV is getting whooped by a younger team-mate in a similar car.

Think:There are talented younger drivers out there who would ask for a fraction of Jv's current salary to drive for Williams.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 07:03 (Ref:708806)   #20
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The salary thing is getting absurdly old now.
Goes to show that nobody here ever pays attention what anyone has said.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 09:31 (Ref:708917)   #21
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Know: The only sure thing in F1 is that nothing is sure.
Think: Anyone that states that they know what's happening in FW's head (or any other team owners)should get his/her head examined.
Think: I wish it would be true but I doubt it very much.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 10:12 (Ref:708947)   #22
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You mean Euros, GTR?

I can't see JV returning to Williams, Frank rarely signs established drivers and has never re-signed someone who previously left the team (other than Mansell as a substitute). Besides, he will feel that JV is overpaid, has wasted his career and no longer has anything to offer.
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Old 5 Sep 2003, 10:16 (Ref:708949)   #23
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You could have called Prost an overpaid, washed up driver after '91/'92, but he did got signed by FW and did win his last WDC with Williams.
Could have been more if FW hadn't signed Senna.

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Old 5 Sep 2003, 10:19 (Ref:708951)   #24
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Think: He won't be at Williams

Hope: He will get a half decent drive somewhere for next season

Know: Bugger all! This is F1 remember, I thought I knew that overtaking was impossible at Hungary especially when Ralf was doing it.... now I don't have a clue!
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Know: I know nothing (and I don't even come from Barcelona!).

Think: The rumour was that Montoya would be joining McLaren in 2005 and that Williams had already signed his replacement. If this is true, the only driver I can see Williams having signed up this early is one who started his F1 career at Williams and who now drives for BAR. And I don't mean JV...

I'm not sure myself that JB would be the right man at Williams, but Sir Frank seems to think highly enough of him, and he's better placed than me to judge, so why not.
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