BTCC 2014 BTCC speculation, rumours and news - Page 6

BtccLee · 4 Sep 2013, 16:45 (Ref:3298947)

To me "...re-assess my future in the BTCC" is look at what's on offer in the series as opposed to " ... I may look at other series"

I don't think this is the last we have seen if TOC in the BTCC...

porsche962fan · 4 Sep 2013, 16:52 (Ref:3298951)

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Originally Posted by BtccLee

To me "...re-assess my future in the BTCC" is look at what's on offer in the series as opposed to " ... I may look at other series"

I don't think this is the last we have seen if TOC in the BTCC...

well TOC did jump ship suddenly at AMD

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 4 Sep 2013, 16:53 (Ref:3298952)

TOC will be back, but I can guarantee there'll be some Brit GT drives for him.

Thaw Daggerslash · 4 Sep 2013, 19:34 (Ref:3299036)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

It's all down to finances. TOC will get paid by a gentleman driver to pilot a GT. He has to bring money to Tony Gilham to drive the Passat.

I'd wager there's rather more to it than that, based on the comments he's made in the past...

Jiiiiiiim · 4 Sep 2013, 20:10 (Ref:3299048)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

He talked about running 6 cars this year.

Excuse me if I don't get too excited about this just yet

Well he hasn't really managed to run 4 properly this year yet, I though having TOC & Goff then getting Owy in the car showed promise but look what's happened now. Shame the potential is there, but then there is always next year after development, then next year after .......................................................

BtccLee · 4 Sep 2013, 20:39 (Ref:3299057)

Here's an interesting interlude. There is a picture of a Mercedes CLA racer floating around on Twitter. Now I think people are reading too much into this but some are calling it a BTCC racer and there were some rumours regarding a Mercedes entry recently...

Jiiiiiiim · 4 Sep 2013, 20:47 (Ref:3299062)

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Originally Posted by BtccLee

Here's an interesting interlude. There is a picture of a Mercedes CLA racer floating around on Twitter. Now I think people are reading too much into this but some are calling it a BTCC racer and there were some rumours regarding a Mercedes entry recently...

Saw the picture but could find any real info on it, tho it did get people all un-necessary and cause some mouth foaming

CarsCarsCars · 4 Sep 2013, 20:51 (Ref:3299065)

http://www.carscoops.com/2013/09/new...mg-racing.html

Is that the car? Its not NGTC

BtccLee · 4 Sep 2013, 20:54 (Ref:3299068)

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Originally Posted by CarsCarsCars

http://www.carscoops.com/2013/09/new...mg-racing.html

Is that the car? Its not NGTC

Hmmmm. It's not described as NGTC. Some comments there though...

"The CLA 45 AMG Racing Series is destined for the crowd-pulling race series featuring 2.0-litre turbocharged cars..."

redshoes · 4 Sep 2013, 20:58 (Ref:3299071)

"with carbon fiber parts", "with permanent all-wheel drive" = NOT NGTC

BtccLee · 4 Sep 2013, 21:07 (Ref:3299074)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

"with carbon fiber parts", "with permanent all-wheel drive" = NOT NGTC

"The technical specifications will vary according to the race rules and race series. The engine output and power transmission are variable, with permanent all-wheel drive or purely front-wheel drive possible..."

So... lets wait until the Motor Show...

Speed-King · 4 Sep 2013, 21:13 (Ref:3299079)

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Originally Posted by BtccLee

"The technical specifications will vary according to the race rules and race series. The engine output and power transmission are variable, with permanent all-wheel drive or purely front-wheel drive possible..."

So... lets wait until the Motor Show...

This is just a concept for now - or rather a sales pitch... "if you are willing to pay, we'll build it to your specifications"...

Craner Curves · 4 Sep 2013, 21:27 (Ref:3299088)

Looks to me like a one make racer?

redshoes · 4 Sep 2013, 21:45 (Ref:3299103)

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Originally Posted by BtccLee

"The technical specifications will vary according to the race rules and race series. The engine output and power transmission are variable, with permanent all-wheel drive or purely front-wheel drive possible..."

That implies it is built to a basic specification which can be adapted to various series, so not NGTC. Cars built to NGTC do not race in other series; cars built for other series an not be adapted to NGTC.

Speed-King · 4 Sep 2013, 22:01 (Ref:3299113)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

That implies it is built to a basic specification which can be adapted to various series, so not NGTC. Cars built to NGTC do not race in other series; cars built for other series an not be adapted to NGTC.

I am sure for the right €€€ AMG will be more than happy to build you an NGTC-challenger. (Unless they are philosophically oppossed to the idea of using spec parts, but going by their involvement in V8SC they aren't.)

Craner Curves · 4 Sep 2013, 22:01 (Ref:3299114)

Bonfire well and truly pee'd on there.

Thaw Daggerslash · 4 Sep 2013, 22:11 (Ref:3299117)

I doubt there was ever a rumour about a Mercedes entry anyway. Most likely, it was a case of somebody's fantasy that gets repeated on so many different forums that it ends up interpreted as something that might happen.

But hey, I'm cynical.

Andrew Abbott · 5 Sep 2013, 07:30 (Ref:3299251)

If I worked at Mercedes, I wouldn't authorise a programme for a premium car manufacturer to go and compete around some UK circuits against Toyotas, Protons and Chinese-built MGs. There's not enough prestige about competing in the BTCC.

It's just not the sort of thing Mercedes would consider!

So moving on...

Apart from MN, has this Renault Mégane story been reported elsewhere?

Sodemo · 5 Sep 2013, 07:54 (Ref:3299265)

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Originally Posted by AndySpeed

If I worked at Mercedes, I wouldn't authorise a programme for a premium car manufacturer to go and compete around some UK circuits against Toyotas, Protons and Chinese-built MGs. There's not enough prestige about competing in the BTCC.

It's just not the sort of thing Mercedes would consider!

So moving on...

Apart from MN, has this Renault Mégane story been reported elsewhere?

Yet there are Ford's, Audi's and BMW's on the grid too, all independent entries granted, but still on the grind nonetheless. Just playing devils advocate...

thetool · 5 Sep 2013, 13:33 (Ref:3299439)

Mercedes don't have to approve the program for it to happen. Sure it makes it more difficult, but its not like it used to be in the past, where a manufacturer blocking it makes it impossible.

Craner Curves · 5 Sep 2013, 13:44 (Ref:3299443)

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Originally Posted by thetool

Mercedes don't have to approve the program for it to happen. Sure it makes it more difficult, but its not like it used to be in the past, where a manufacturer blocking it makes it impossible.

They could drag their heels and tell their dealers not to supply any production parts for example. I do wonder if the Audi got the blessing of Audi UK, because it's not the prettiest, classiest looking Audi I've ever seen.

**touringlegend** · 5 Sep 2013, 13:47 (Ref:3299444)

Sure I have read a recent article - maybe on a team's website - who decided not to use a car due the manufacturer not giving them the blessing to use it.

Can't remember who it was?

auroan · 5 Sep 2013, 14:01 (Ref:3299463)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

Sure I have read a recent article - maybe on a team's website - who decided not to use a car due the manufacturer not giving them the blessing to use it.

Can't remember who it was?

I think that might have been Welch MotorSport and the SEAT Exeo

auroan · 5 Sep 2013, 14:03 (Ref:3299464)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

They could drag their heels and tell their dealers not to supply any production parts for example. I do wonder if the Audi got the blessing of Audi UK, because it's not the prettiest, classiest looking Audi I've ever seen.

The Audi (in the first instance) was built by GPRM, and considering GPRM ran the factory team back in the 90s... it might have helped in terms of getting shells etc.

**BertMk2** · 5 Sep 2013, 15:33 (Ref:3299503)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

I do wonder if the Audi got the blessing of Audi UK, because it's not the prettiest, classiest looking Audi I've ever seen.

I think the Audi is one of the best looking cars on the grid!

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