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Old 23 Apr 2017, 09:00 (Ref:3728589)   #226
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 09:16 (Ref:3728595)   #227
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Mosterts pocket will be a bit lighter after today $3,000 fine for the burnout
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 09:28 (Ref:3728605)   #228
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Breach of procedure.

Was told to do it AFTER turn 1, and once ALL cars had passed.
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 10:11 (Ref:3728615)   #229
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He did that, but they also should have told him not to do a static burnout, which apparently was a request from the circuit owners.

These drivers briefings must be lengthy meetings to get through all of the unique rules to each circuit...
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 10:21 (Ref:3728620)   #230
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These drivers briefings must be lengthy meetings to get through all of the unique rules to each circuit...
When i was racing at club level, it was up to us to read the supp regs, and if anyone had a query then bring it up in the briefing. It wasn't the organisers job to go through it all for us. I assume it would be the same here
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 11:18 (Ref:3728634)   #231
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All the JOF's must have been busy watching the dotted line, missed SVG's wheels turning while still up on the jacks. Funny how TV commentary was quiet as well.
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 11:22 (Ref:3728636)   #232
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All the JOF's must have been busy watching the dotted line, missed SVG's wheels turning while still up on the jacks. Funny how TV commentary was quiet as well.
I saw that too but that is allowed, was simply the wheel rotating as 1st gear was engaged. I believe a penalty only applies if one full wheel rotation occurs.
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 11:26 (Ref:3728638)   #233
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Yep, needs to be a full turn.
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 11:31 (Ref:3728640)   #234
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Noticed the runner's up trophy was presented by some dude from Dunlop...he probably would have rather would have not been there!
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 21:40 (Ref:3728772)   #235
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supercars update their facebook cover photo to Chaz doing a burnout

Really massive damage control by the series needed and the y popst a pic of a guy doing a ripper burnout that they fined him for
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 22:13 (Ref:3728777)   #236
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supercars update their facebook cover photo to Chaz doing a burnout

Really massive damage control by the series needed and the y popst a pic of a guy doing a ripper burnout that they fined him for
The fine wasn't for the burnout per se, it was for ignoring the specific instruction and completing it in an unauthorized place, and before all of the cars had completed their final lap....

... oh wait..
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Old 23 Apr 2017, 23:51 (Ref:3728798)   #237
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when was the last time T8 didnt have a car in the top 15
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Old 24 Apr 2017, 05:35 (Ref:3728818)   #238
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so who dobbed on scotty mac in the saturday race to bring the slow lane violation to the attention of race control
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Old 24 Apr 2017, 06:17 (Ref:3728821)   #239
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so who dobbed on scotty mac in the saturday race to bring the slow lane violation to the attention of race control
Kelly racing apparently, according to another forum
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Old 24 Apr 2017, 08:35 (Ref:3728833)   #240
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Thought I'd post again for interests sake.
Ratings for Phillip Island Sunday Race:
2016: 142,000
2017: 176,000
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Old 26 Apr 2017, 09:07 (Ref:3729256)   #241
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Interesting to hear Skaife and Crompton on Inside Supercars talking about some teams using 9 degrees negative camber during static/setup with up to 13 degrees negative camber when loaded through the corners.
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Old 26 Apr 2017, 09:56 (Ref:3729262)   #242
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Well, 13 degrees unloaded as it'll be the unloaded tyre experiencing the increased negative camber. The loaded tyre should basically be 0.
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Old 27 Apr 2017, 03:11 (Ref:3729401)   #243
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Well, 13 degrees unloaded as it'll be the unloaded tyre experiencing the increased negative camber. The loaded tyre should basically be 0.
I've realised this isn't correct. He may have been discussing the camber gain and the angle relative to the chassis and not relative to the road, but I don't understand how that would be relevant in cornering. It's probably relevant to mention that under heavy braking the tyres will also see a much higher camber angle which wouldn't have been good for the inside shoulder.

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Old 28 Apr 2017, 03:04 (Ref:3729578)   #244
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I've realised this isn't correct. He may have been discussing the camber gain and the angle relative to the chassis and not relative to the road, but I don't understand how that would be relevant in cornering. It's probably relevant to mention that under heavy braking the tyres will also see a much higher camber angle which wouldn't have been good for the inside shoulder.
Skaife mentioned that once you apply the load and the roll center changes, the camber goes up...

Took me a bit to get my head around it....
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Old 28 Apr 2017, 03:50 (Ref:3729580)   #245
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Skaife mentioned that once you apply the load and the roll center changes, the camber goes up...

Took me a bit to get my head around it....
...true, depending on the actual roll centre location. Ospi is correct in stating that the change relative to road is the more critical concept... if there was no camber change throughout the suspension travel, then as the car rolls, the outside tyre stands up straighter relative to the road.
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Old 28 Apr 2017, 23:52 (Ref:3729774)   #246
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The camber gain and roll centre shifting are both a result of the rotation of the wishbones around their pick-up points yes? (just getting my head around some things!) sorry for off topic.
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Old 1 May 2017, 04:40 (Ref:3730249)   #247
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Interesting that in the CAMS Steward Summary for race 5 that the team personnel of Chasports Racing Pty Ltd crossed the fast lane prior to the last car as called by Race Control. They were fined $2,000.

Does anyone know who Chasports is ?
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Old 1 May 2017, 04:43 (Ref:3730250)   #248
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Interesting that in the CAMS Steward Summary for race 5 that the team personnel of Chasports Racing Pty Ltd crossed the fast lane prior to the last car as called by Race Control. They were fined $2,000.

Does anyone know who Chasports is ?
Car 18, the controlling company of Preston Hire Racing
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The camber gain and roll centre shifting are both a result of the rotation of the wishbones around their pick-up points yes?
Yes, unequal length wishbone suspension.
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