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Old 13 Jun 2017, 16:30 (Ref:3740911)   #61
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This series still exist? 😏
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Old 14 Jun 2017, 06:05 (Ref:3741084)   #62
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Old 21 Jun 2017, 21:44 (Ref:3745874)   #63
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This series still exist? 😏
The car is homologated until 2019. The teams have a contract that expires only in 2008. You won't kill the animal so easily.

Thereís nothing quite like Autumn in New York. But itís not only the leaves that change. Something in the air brings out the true colors in everyone.
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Old 22 Jun 2017, 15:11 (Ref:3746071)   #64
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The car is homologated until 2019. The teams have a contract that expires only in 2008. You won't kill the animal so easily.

Thereís nothing quite like Autumn in New York. But itís not only the leaves that change. Something in the air brings out the true colors in everyone.
I was just having a bit of sarcasm at how spread out the calendar is.
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Old 13 Jul 2017, 17:48 (Ref:3750973)   #65
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Old 19 Jul 2017, 10:16 (Ref:3752744)   #66
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Somehow the corner entry speed to Brooklands was more impressive for the GP3 cars than the F1 cars. Not sure if this was to do with scale or noise or what but I was surprised by it first time through, looked really fast.
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Is it just me or there are waves of fear in the GP3 paddock regarding the future of the series? Most people looked at Bruno Michel with terror and with fear but Gerhard Berger is not a man to drink it all and say, I feel fine.
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Good question.

The FIA F3 / GP3 merger seems a terrible idea.
If GP3 is renamed FIA F3, then there would be two specs with the same name.
If GP3 is dropped, then the performance gap between F3 and F2 would be excessive.

In any case, the basic question is how can each series survive financially. We well know that motorsport has become ridiculously expensive. Junior formula racing is a notable example.

Yet GP3 changes cars every three years, and has an overseas race in Abu Dhabi.
And FIA F3 has just five teams, and budgets are outrageous for a 200hp car.
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Good question.

The FIA F3 / GP3 merger seems a terrible idea.
If GP3 is renamed FIA F3, then there would be two specs with the same name.
If GP3 is dropped, then the performance gap between F3 and F2 would be excessive.

In any case, the basic question is how can each series survive financially. We well know that motorsport has become ridiculously expensive. Junior formula racing is a notable example.

Yet GP3 changes cars every three years, and has an overseas race in Abu Dhabi.
And FIA F3 has just five teams, and budgets are outrageous for a 200hp car.
But then F3 is a far, far better barometer of talent!
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F3 cars have just 200hp. It's far from the same as driving a 400hp or 600hp car. That's why there's several steps in the ladder.
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Surely the issue is that certain teams/constructors have monopolies, and therefore they are the only teams/constructors with any real demand, and so they push their budgets upwards and upwards as the prospective drivers are willing to pay more and more for a good seat? This then negates the smaller teams/constructors, as track time with them is deemed to be a waste of a season (or why bother when you can get a Prema seat?). Just open the formula up for constructors and things may end up being better? E.g. if someone developed a car better than the Dallara F3 car that cost less and a small team was the first to run it - suddenly the monopolies have been negated, all for a lower price!

The way I see it is that junior formula racing is too far down the road to nowhere, but the overwhelming desire of the FIA to have complete control over all potential junior formulae, and deny relevance to any viable competition through the needless superlicense points system (see Formula Renault Eurocup, only surviving due to prestige and the fact it offers actual value for money, especially when compared to F3/GP3 - which many good graduates have previously skipped without much hinderance to their career) means that there is no way out. The FIA is digging around looking for the treasure to save themselves but are really digging a grave for single seater racing.

A merger between the two also depletes the potential routes a driver can take - thus depleting the market for single seater drivers looking to move into F2 with "relevant experience." If there is meant to be a pyramid to the top, then it is a failure. If it is a ladder, then we'll have to get used to thin grids and few teams - the recipe for catastrophically high budgets for top drives. After all, there are many ways to climb a mountain, but only one way up a ladder.

A merger thus means that F2 will either thin out or be depleted in quality. Naturally, F1 will be next in line to be struck (although, given the current rates of rookies, it may be able to weather this). And also, what good are all of the F4 series' if only 10 from around Europe can graduate within FIA "licensed" series? Young drivers will pick up on this quickly - or at least management and teams will. We're already seeing many young drivers desert single seaters and aim for GTs or prototypes, or even touring cars! They know the system is broken, stagnant whilst simultaneously inflating and self-destructing.

This is very much me unpacking my thoughts on the issue, so sorry for the waffle, and inevitable incoherence.

The basic idea is that the regulated, closed nature of junior formulae is the core reason for these issues, the results of which are driving costs upwards as it puts severe, fairly strong limits on how success can be achieved - and that's what the money is for. Similarly, the FIA attempting to elevate their series above outsider competition is also a recipe for disaster, leading to depleted grids, less teams, thus higher costs and a greater exodus of young drivers to other disciplines.

Other issues I haven't mentioned are how this may actually be unavoidable and incurable due to a advanced technology in these cars, and of course logistics of a merger, although the post itself covers far more than just the merger!
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