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3 Apr 2016, 02:45 (Ref:3629719) | #51 | ||
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3 Apr 2016, 02:47 (Ref:3629720) | #52 | ||
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Poor mileage hurts him again
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3 Apr 2016, 02:47 (Ref:3629721) | #53 | ||
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Well he's still on the lead lap ...
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3 Apr 2016, 02:49 (Ref:3629722) | #54 | |
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3 Apr 2016, 03:05 (Ref:3629724) | #55 | ||
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BS caution, finish under yellow. Thanks IndyCar.
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3 Apr 2016, 03:05 (Ref:3629725) | #56 | ||
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Wtf happened at the end? The debris on track was fine for 5 or 6 laps, but at 2 to go out was a problem all the sudden?????
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3 Apr 2016, 03:06 (Ref:3629726) | #57 | ||
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Shame to end under a yellow but I don't think it would have affected the result, with 2 laps to go.
Congrats to Dixon and an impressive drive by Max Chilton. |
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3 Apr 2016, 03:06 (Ref:3629727) | #58 | ||
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Not sure why they called caution so late after the debris sitting there for 7 laps
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3 Apr 2016, 03:06 (Ref:3629728) | #59 | ||
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Ridiculous end
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3 Apr 2016, 03:07 (Ref:3629729) | #60 | ||
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The FCY for Flippi was totally unnecessary, while this one this late, I really don't know what to say. Race decided by pit stop and caution.
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3 Apr 2016, 03:07 (Ref:3629730) | #61 | ||
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No idea what race control is thinking.
Munoz is slow and they wait to throw the yellow. Bourdais taps the wall and the caution gets thrown instantly. Debris on the front stretch for around 10 laps and a caution comes out with 2 to go. Just awful decision making. |
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3 Apr 2016, 03:24 (Ref:3629736) | #62 | ||
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Just watched the interview with RH-R and he said he got buried by those yellows.
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3 Apr 2016, 04:12 (Ref:3629738) | #63 | ||
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I can't comment on the FCY calls throughout the race but the last one was odd if nothing else. Didn't ruin the end, however.
Lots of defensive driving tonight and too much dirty air contributing to lack of passing. There's almost too much at the big ovals and it's almost too tough at the shorter ones. Regardless, more short ovals, please. Congrats to Dixie and brutal luck for RHR. I enjoyed the show. Hope the 3,000 people or so in attendance did too. |
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3 Apr 2016, 05:17 (Ref:3629743) | #64 | ||
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Apparently, the last FCY was due to Rossi going into the wall.
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3 Apr 2016, 06:11 (Ref:3629759) | #65 | |
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Solid race and glad to see the way it turned out, with some quality action rather than the pure aero push or crashfest that some predicted.
The only things I'm not happy about is the way cautions still get thrown for seemingly innocuous incidents (Kimball spin, Bourdais brushing the wall) and the commentators obsessing over what /might/ happen rather than what /is/ happening. But those are both fairly normal occurrences in North American racing, so not much to be surprised about. Looking forward to Long Beach! |
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3 Apr 2016, 08:07 (Ref:3629771) | #66 | ||
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3 Apr 2016, 08:26 (Ref:3629777) | #67 | |
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I agree with the latter but not the former. You don't take chances with a 20 second lap/185mph average speeds. Now I'm not saying all cautions in general were necessarily required, but we have the benefit of hindsight. The caution for Rossi at the end was legitimate, his car hit the wall and was out of control in front of the leaders.
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3 Apr 2016, 10:28 (Ref:3629806) | #68 | ||
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Result:
1 Scott Dixon, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 1h49m38.3855s 2 Simon Pagenaud, Team Penske. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 0.6825s 3 Will Power, Team Penske. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 1.7264s 4 Tony Kanaan, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 1.9589s 5 Graham Rahal, Rahal Letterman Lanigan. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 2.5272s 6 Josef Newgarden, Ed Carpenter Racing. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 2.7457s 7 Max Chilton, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 2.9914s 8 Sebastien Bourdais, KVSH Racing. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 3.9491s 9 Juan Pablo Montoya, Team Penske. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 4.4548s 10 Ryan Hunter-Reay, Andretti Autosport. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 5.2143s 11 Helio Castroneves, Team Penske. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 8.0324s 12 Charlie Kimball, Chip Ganassi Racing Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. 9.3366s 13 Marco Andretti, Andretti Autosport. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 10.0918s 14 Alexander Rossi, Andretti Herta. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 13.0555s 15 Takuma Sato, AJ Foyt Enterprises. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 1 Lap 16 Conor Daly, Dale Coyne Racing. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 1 Lap 17 Mikhail Aleshin, Schmidt Peterson Motorsports. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 2 Laps 18 James Hinchcliffe, Schmidt Peterson Motorsports. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 2 Laps 19 Jack Hawksworth, AJ Foyt Enterprises. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 4 Laps 20 Luca Filippi, Dale Coyne Racing. Dallara-DW12/Honda. 7 Laps 21 Ed Carpenter, Ed Carpenter Racing. Dallara-DW12/Chevrolet. Contact 22 Carlos Munoz, Andretti Autosport. Dallara-DW12/Honda. Contact |
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3 Apr 2016, 11:16 (Ref:3629824) | #69 | ||
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Wow no penalty for that Kanaan block? I thought that was pretty out of order...
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3 Apr 2016, 12:37 (Ref:3629848) | #70 | ||
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3 Apr 2016, 13:29 (Ref:3629858) | #71 | ||
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I do stand by my thoughts regarding the other two though. Kimball and Newgarden made contact after just one full lap of green with plenty of time until the field came back around and with the #83 staying running the whole time, he simply looped it on the apron and continued on without another car coming close to being in the same area. Did he even come to a complete stop? And I don't see how a car simply brushing the wall and continuing on without any problems warrants a full course yellow. The other part to this is the length of time spent under yellow, 8 laps for the Kimball / Newgarden incident and 6 laps for Bourdais. Why spend so much time behind the pace car? Anyway, I am nitpicking a bit I guess, as I do genuinely enjoy Indycar racing and will continue to do so. I just sometimes wish they would be a little less "NASCAR" in some of their ways, that's all. |
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3 Apr 2016, 13:41 (Ref:3629860) | #72 | ||
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Is there any video showing what happened to Rossi at the end? I'm assuming the commentators didn't know what happened either because they kept referencing the piece of debris on the front stretch as the reason for the caution.
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https://youtu.be/TxrbzgM8vZo Accoriding to Racer, "Rossi started and finished 14th but kept his nose clean and finished on the lead lap for Michael Andretti." http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/12...enix_2157_copy |
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3 Apr 2016, 15:42 (Ref:3629910) | #74 | ||
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Regarding the trigger happiness of throwing yellows, it's far different from road courses. Not saying we don't have an understanding of the differences here but I certainly would rather see things stay green for relatively minor incidents. However, cars pushing 190 on a mile oval, I don't mind playing cautiously; my hand isn't on the race control button and neither is any of yours. It's easy for us to criticize.
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