GT3 manufactures...

[MagVanisher]

Speaking of supporting multiple manufacturers, just wondering if Renault-Nissan would support both GT3 cars, the Nissan GT-R and the Renault Sport R.S. 01 (assuming that it's available in GT3 form)?

On the other hand, Nissan's GT-R GT3 car can't take the competition enough for overall victory in European soil, especially in endurance races like Nurburgring, Spa, etc.

[Graham Goodwin]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Speaking of supporting multiple manufacturers, just wondering if Renault-Nissan would support both GT3 cars, the Nissan GT-R and the Renault Sport R.S. 01 (assuming that it's available in GT3 form)?

On the other hand, Nissan's GT-R GT3 car can't take the competition enough for overall victory in European soil, especially in endurance races like Nurburgring, Spa, etc.

It's a big leap to assume that a one-make racer will be available in GT3 form - for that to happen it first has to be a road car.

The Nissan won the Pro-Am class Teams and drivers Championship in Blancpain Endurance last year - a substantial upgrade is due imminently for 2015

[pederb]

Ginetta just released their GT3 car.



http://ginetta.com/cars_gt3

[Graham Goodwin]

The G55 GT3 has been running since 2012 - its the new LMP3 that has been released today

[HORNDAWG]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

The G55 GT3 has been running since 2012 - its the new LMP3 that has been released today

Yep.

http://ginetta.com/news_article?id=1725









L.P.

[Mike Hedlund]

Originally Posted by Dimension

In not that many months, you'll have 5 cars available for purchase in GT3 from VW, the bentley, the R8, the (modernized) Gallardo, the new Huracan, and the 997 which is the only one that can be considered "older" and somewhat unsupported at this point. And only the Porsche is uncompetitive at this point, even the old Gallardos are racking up wins in BSS, against highly supported Audis.

You haven't been able to purchase a 997 GT3R from Porsche since early 2013. They are still supported through Porsche Motorsport though.

-mike

[pederb]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

The G55 GT3 has been running since 2012 - its the new LMP3 that has been released today

Never seen it before

[KA]

The Ginetta GT3 has been running in British GT and elsewhere for the last couple of years, with both factory and customer cars appearing. IIRC the factory LNT car has been out in VdeV and occasional GT Open races in Europe this year.

http://www.endurance-info.com/en/mik...e-a-contender/

No FIA GT3 homologation for Blancpain etc yet though AFAIK

http://www.racingsportscars.com/phot...-10-06-040.jpg

[rich07]

A Ginetta GT3 is planned to race in Australian GT later this year along with a couple of Ginetta GZ50 (I think this is their name-correct me if wrong).

[Graham Goodwin]

Originally Posted by rich07

A Ginetta GT3 is planned to race in Australian GT later this year along with a couple of Ginetta GZ50 (I think this is their name-correct me if wrong).

G50 is the goriest designation - The G50Z was a short-lived version fitted with the Zytek V8

[rich07]

Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

G50 is the goriest designation - The G50Z was a short-lived version fitted with the Zytek V8

Thanks. That's the car I'm referring to. Supposed to be halfway between GT3 and GT4. Never heard the Zytek V8 in the flesh but if it sounds as good as the Ginetta that was at the Bathurst 12hr this year it should sound good.

[Speed-King]

The (Caddy-)plot thickens:

GM told Callaway that they can sell their new C7 GT3 cars only in Europe, so as to not compete against a potential CAddy GT3 in North America. This poses a bit of a problem for Callaway as the development of the C7 has apparently had a number of North American backers, that have to be replaced now.

Source: http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=9473&Itemid=1

[Thaw Daggerslash]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

The (Caddy-)plot thickens:

GM told Callaway that they can sell their new C7 GT3 cars only in Europe, so as to not compete against a potential CAddy GT3 in North America. This poses a bit of a problem for Callaway as the development of the C7 has apparently had a number of North American backers, that have to be replaced now.

Source: http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=9473&Itemid=1

That's a bit poor. To make a similar connection, I know Porsche's plans were originally to race in the ALMS, but they have no qualms about racing Audi right now. So can't really understand that sort of reasoning.

[BullMan]

Originally Posted by Thaw Daggerslash

That's a bit poor. To make a similar connection, I know Porsche's plans were originally to race in the ALMS, but they have no qualms about racing Audi right now. So can't really understand that sort of reasoning.

Different company, different mindset. It is a poor mindset though. I don't see what would stop a team from buying a C7 GT3 and then racing it in the US. If it's FIA homologated then it would be legal in PWC. TUSC would probably outlaw it though, just as they did with the Porsche 911. It would be a stupid decision, but right in line with their previous actions.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by BullMan

Different company, different mindset. It is a poor mindset though. I don't see what would stop a team from buying a C7 GT3 and then racing it in the US.

Well, Callaway wouldn't be able to handle the parts supply either... and with every little part on a GT3 being homologated the team in question couldn't simply manufacture their own spares either. That's also what killed the Marc VdS Mustang-program back in the day...

[pederb]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

The (Caddy-)plot thickens:

GM told Callaway that they can sell their new C7 GT3 cars only in Europe, so as to not compete against a potential CAddy GT3 in North America. This poses a bit of a problem for Callaway as the development of the C7 has apparently had a number of North American backers, that have to be replaced now.

Source: http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=9473&Itemid=1

Same Corvette BS again

Like a Corvette customer and a Caddy customer are the same customer

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

The (Caddy-)plot thickens:

GM told Callaway that they can sell their new C7 GT3 cars only in Europe, so as to not compete against a potential CAddy GT3 in North America. This poses a bit of a problem for Callaway as the development of the C7 has apparently had a number of North American backers, that have to be replaced now.

Source: http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=9473&Itemid=1

That's a stupid idea! What if GM told Callaway to stop making the C7 Corvette GT3 so that their P&M CTS-V would compete all over the world?

[Mike Hedlund]

Originally Posted by BullMan

I don't see what would stop a team from buying a C7 GT3 and then racing it in the US. If it's FIA homologated then it would be legal in PWC. TUSC would probably outlaw it though, just as they did with the Porsche 911. It would be a stupid decision, but right in line with their previous actions.

No series would let it compete because of GM influence. GM wants to control the image of the Corvette as a race car through the factory Corvette Racing team.

-mike

[pederb]

So this basically mean that if and when the Caddy GT3 surfaces it will not been sold in EU?

No series would let it compete because of GM influence. GM wants to control the image of the Corvette as a race car through the factory Corvette Racing team.

-mike

But Mike, GM is not going to race the Vette in GT3, right?

[Mike Hedlund]

Originally Posted by pederb

So this basically mean that if and when the Caddy GT3 surfaces it will not been sold in EU?

But Mike, GM is not going to race the Vette in GT3, right?

Who knows what's happening with a Caddy GT3. Maybe they'll make a "GT3" version but not sell it (I can't imagine Cadillac in the customer support racing business). If they did do a full customer racing program I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem selling them to anyone that wanted to fork over the money, especially in Europe. Here in the states I'm not sure how GM would react, which is probably why it's taking them so damn long to decide what to do. Suits and marketing monkeys fighting over motorsport.

Being "GT3" or whatever class doesn't matter as long as the factory Corvette Racing cars are competing in the same race.

-mike

[pederb]

Maybe they will do what they have done with the Corvettes, sell off the last years model and let no one buy a current model?

[hondafan37]

Very good analysis of GT3 in Endurance-Info
http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/gt3...et-maintenant/

[TF110]

So if Caddy goes gt3, itll be for their own team? The C7 gt3 will have to stay in Europe so theres no in brand competition? Thats how its looking to me.

[Mike Hedlund]

Originally Posted by TF110

So if Caddy goes gt3, itll be for their own team? The C7 gt3 will have to stay in Europe so theres no in brand competition? Thats how its looking to me.

Unless they have a corporate change in marketing / motorsport strategy, that's what'll happen.

-mike

[Rcz]

Isn't the intended customers different between the two brands? Why would GM do this? It will only hurt them in the long run.