[iV8SC13R30,31] Armor All Gold Coast 600 - 25-27 Oct - Page 7

Racenut · 28 Oct 2013, 23:09 (Ref:3324494)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

But they were not 5th and 15th before the pit stop

No they werent 5th and 15th they were 11th and 18th! If you look at their positions prior to lap 61 they were working their way up, on 61 they were 11 and 18, between lap 62 and 64 everyone did their stops which messed up the order so dont look at their position just before the stop. After the stops (lap 65) JW was 5th and CL 16th, even after stacking!!!

Based on that I would say that Roland Dane and the team know a bit more about race strategy (and winning) than Larko and peckstar.

peckstar · 28 Oct 2013, 23:21 (Ref:3324502)

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Originally Posted by Racenut

No they werent 5th and 15th they were 11th and 18th! If you look at their positions prior to lap 61 they were working their way up, on 61 they were 11 and 18, between lap 62 and 64 everyone did their stops which messed up the order so dont look at their position just before the stop. After the stops (lap 65) JW was 5th and CL 16th, even after stacking!!!

Based on that I would say that Roland Dane and the team know a bit more about race strategy (and winning) than Larko and peckstar.

Except he didnt win this time, because he got it wrong. he made a last conservative change which resulted in Lowndes losing time and the ablity to win the or place high was eliminated.

If he had have stayed out he would ahve been challenging for the top 5 instead of the top ten

sizzle · 29 Oct 2013, 02:56 (Ref:3324561)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Except he didnt win this time, because he got it wrong. he made a last conservative change which resulted in Lowndes losing time and the ablity to win the or place high was eliminated.

If he had have stayed out he would ahve been challenging for the top 5 instead of the top ten

Ifs buts and maybe don't win motor races.

How can you be sure he would have been challenging for a top 5?

Racenut · 29 Oct 2013, 04:41 (Ref:3324574)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Except he didnt win this time, because he got it wrong. he made a last conservative change which resulted in Lowndes losing time and the ablity to win the or place high was eliminated.

If he had have stayed out he would ahve been challenging for the top 5 instead of the top ten

Nope! Wrong!! If CL stayed out for another lap he would have restarted the race at the back of the field, not 18th. Double stacking looks like you are losing time because he was sitting still but in fact you are maintaining the best possible track position.

**GTRMagic** · 29 Oct 2013, 04:53 (Ref:3324580)

And if Mr van Gisbergen hadnt given a Liberace to fellow 888 customer LDM's Mr Pye, he would have won the weekend

peckstar · 29 Oct 2013, 05:05 (Ref:3324582)

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Originally Posted by Racenut

Nope! Wrong!! If CL stayed out for another lap he would have restarted the race at the back of the field, not 18th. Double stacking looks like you are losing time because he was sitting still but in fact you are maintaining the best possible track position.

you make a wronga ssumption there, he would have been in P1 for the next 15-20 laps as he would have been in front of the field,

then he would have been on fresh tyres for the next 20 -30 laps as opposed to what ended up 50 lap old tyres

No one can truly say, what we do know is that Rolands startegy resulted in him being 8th and reducing his gap in the championship to Jamie

Mine and Larkos startegy gave him a chance to win

craig1 · 29 Oct 2013, 07:22 (Ref:3324595)

Going to be a pity if the double stacking rubbish ruins the championship for someone.

Is it one or two Bathurst's now it's cost CL?

No pitting under safety cars please.

chavez · 29 Oct 2013, 08:13 (Ref:3324610)

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Originally Posted by craig1

Going to be a pity if the double stacking rubbish ruins the championship for someone.

Is it one or two Bathurst's now it's cost CL?

No pitting under safety cars please.

Yet that is more unfair than double stacking.

peckstar · 29 Oct 2013, 08:53 (Ref:3324615)

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Originally Posted by craig1

Going to be a pity if the double stacking rubbish ruins the championship for someone.

Is it one or two Bathurst's now it's cost CL?

No pitting under safety cars please.

you do realise that closing the pits would ruin the championship more

Umai Naa · 29 Oct 2013, 09:22 (Ref:3324627)

Double-stacking is the best of a bad situation, when you've got two cars from the same stable in close proximity on the track.

Until such time as V8SC outlaws it, it's here to stay.

v8man · 29 Oct 2013, 10:02 (Ref:3324643)

Why are we picking on Roland for double stacking at a time that would get both cars to the finish without another stop, unlike other teams that double stacked early in the races, HRT were running 1-2 in the Saturday race and safety car came out and so they pit both cars, if they had not double stacked the cars Murphy would not of had the crash because he would not of been down the back of the field with Dumbrell

Racenut · 29 Oct 2013, 20:18 (Ref:3324875)

I will stick with my oripinal comment.... Roland has won more races and championships than Larko and Peckstar which means he must know his stuff. END

peckstar · 29 Oct 2013, 21:15 (Ref:3324889)

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Originally Posted by Racenut

I will stick with my oripinal comment.... Roland has won more races and championships than Larko and Peckstar which means he must know his stuff. END

Yeah but ive never left stuff under the bonnet of a car causing my driver to pit and take it out, which means i know more than Roland by your flawed theory.

FPR won bathurst, but they are often picked on for their startegy errors.

Just because Roland won a championship doesnt make him perfect and in this case Roland stuffed up Lowndes

v8man · 30 Oct 2013, 10:24 (Ref:3325046)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

Yeah but ive never left stuff under the bonnet of a car causing my driver to pit and take it out, which means i know more than Roland by your flawed theory.

FPR won bathurst, but they are often picked on for their startegy errors.

Just because Roland won a championship doesnt make him perfect and in this case Roland stuffed up Lowndes

Bullsh*t, if they had not of double stacked at the time Lowndes would of still come out of the pits after a green flag pit stop in about the same spot if not worse but have less laps to make up spaces

peckstar · 30 Oct 2013, 10:31 (Ref:3325050)

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Originally Posted by v8man

Bullsh*t, if they had not of double stacked at the time Lowndes would of still come out of the pits after a green flag pit stop in about the same spot if not worse but have less laps to make up spaces

nah he would have been challenging for the win

the thing is. roland determined that was lowndes was no chance for the win by double stacking and doing it earlier than planned.

with larkos plan he had the potential to be in the hunt for a higher spot

pigs fly · 30 Oct 2013, 12:20 (Ref:3325088)

It's all about ensuring Whincup wins the championship not Lownes.

**GTRMagic** · 31 Oct 2013, 03:18 (Ref:3325361)

The Story On Stacking

Axeman444 · 31 Oct 2013, 05:21 (Ref:3325375)

pfffft as if Jeromy would know more than some others around here?

peckstar · 31 Oct 2013, 07:47 (Ref:3325400)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

pfffft as if Jeromy would know more than some others around here?

Well he didnt know, he used a lot of mights and coulds, which can just as easily be used as an opposite. Which is what Larko did

What we do know for sure is that the double stacking definately favoured Jamie over Craig

Umai Naa · 31 Oct 2013, 08:01 (Ref:3325407)

You should send your resume to:

Triple Eight Race Engineering
C/ Roland Dane
Banyo, QLD.

peckstar · 31 Oct 2013, 08:05 (Ref:3325409)

Never again.
I didnt really enjoy working for him, his way or the highway and doesn't accept responsibility when he stuffs up

its really not a big deal, its a strategy call, happens all the time, sometimes you look good, sometimes you dont. This time we know it rewarded jamie and punished lowndes

Chris - Melb · 31 Oct 2013, 23:32 (Ref:3325698)

Was this only shown locally on Queensland TV?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piX7s95q6oY

Tell me they didn't make it for just 2000 hits on YouTube

Axeman444 · 4 Nov 2013, 05:08 (Ref:3326842)

Quote:

Originally Posted by peckstar

Well he didnt know, he used a lot of mights and coulds, which can just as easily be used as an opposite. Which is what Larko did

What we do know for sure is that the double stacking definately favoured Jamie over Craig

the question to ask is not did it favour JW over CL, but rather would CL have been better or worse off from double stacking

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