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Old 30 Aug 2017, 12:11 (Ref:3762905)   #1
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Does anybody know if the Jensen CV8 was ever homologated? If it was, was it as a Touring car or Grand Touring car?
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Old 30 Aug 2017, 12:57 (Ref:3762919)   #2
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Does anybody know if the Jensen CV8 was ever homologated? If it was, was it as a Touring car or Grand Touring car?
IIRC only the '72 Jensen-Healey has FIA homologation, but you can always check here:
http://historicdb.fia.com/
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Old 30 Aug 2017, 13:05 (Ref:3762921)   #3
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IIRC only the '72 Jensen-Healey has FIA homologation, but you can always check here:
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Agree. That's what I found.... Richard Warbyoff prepared a 541R for Malcolm Verey a few years ago, and I think Martin Brewer has it for sale (Runnymede MC)- or did have. It competed in Pre '63 races, but again, wasn't homologated.
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So even if not homologated in any category could it be considered a 'Touring' car.
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Old 30 Aug 2017, 15:01 (Ref:3762960)   #5
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So even if not homologated in any category could it be considered a 'Touring' car.
Does definition not come down to internal (habitacle) dimensions? Somewhere in the rules, no doubt...... App J or K.
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Old 30 Aug 2017, 16:33 (Ref:3762985)   #6
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Not yet checked on FIA database but your suggestion seems reasonable until you consider the internal dimensions of, say,your Gilbern which will be larger than, say, a Mini, Imp or Fiat 500.
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Not yet checked on FIA database but your suggestion seems reasonable until you consider the internal dimensions of, say,your Gilbern which will be larger than, say, a Mini, Imp or Fiat 500.
Exactly. The Gilbern GT I'm sure could have been homologated as a touring car if they had wanted, but guess the GT category was more appropriate for marketing..... It may be that the CV8 meets the TC criteria.
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Exactly. The Gilbern GT I'm sure could have been homologated as a touring car if they had wanted, but guess the GT category was more appropriate for marketing..... It may be that the CV8 meets the TC criteria.
Not forgetting the production numbers within 12 months thing. I think the question of cars not homologated in period is documented in appendix K as you suggested, Mike.
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Thanks Gerard, I'd forgotten the production numbers in a 12 month period bit.......
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Does definition not come down to internal (habitacle) dimensions? Somewhere in the rules, no doubt...... App J or K.
I am sure that the internal dimensions of the vehicle do have something to do with specifying it as a Touring Car. There was always controversy that the Mazda RX7 (which most people would have thought was a sports car) was allowed to race as a Touring Car and I seem to remember that it was the internal dimensions thing that got it through. (Mind you, the cars were entered by TWR at the time, so there was bound to be controversy!)
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Tornado Talismans and 911's are homologised as GT's and have raced as saloons, having rear seats, of a kind!
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Tornado Talismans and 911's are homologised as GT's and have raced as saloons, having rear seats, of a kind!
Likewise, XJSs also.
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Likewise, XJSs also.
Does any one know if a 1997/98 Vauxhall Astra would comply with any relevant FIA specifications to qualify as a 'Saloon Car', and thus eligible for Historic Touring Car events?
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Does any one know if a 1997/98 Vauxhall Astra would comply with any relevant FIA specifications to qualify as a 'Saloon Car', and thus eligible for Historic Touring Car events?
As someone who knows a bit about Vauxhalls, I'd say that your Astra would be more suitable for Hysterical Touring Car Racing...
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As to the internal dimensions we could also add the Alfa Bertone supposed to make room for 4 adults… Both with RX7 were Group1 homologated. In my list only one Porsche was ever homologated as a Group 1, the 912 (first series I think) but ok correct me if its wrong.
If a Jensen CV8 has been entered in an international meeting you could make a perfect copy and have it recognized. Right or wrong?
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Mon ami Robert, actually not, but you have to look in the Opel list to find another homologated Astra's list, the '98 CC model. Two doors only but this can be fixed!
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Does any one know if a 1997/98 Vauxhall Astra would comply with any relevant FIA specifications to qualify as a 'Saloon Car', and thus eligible for Historic Touring Car events?
To qualify as a saloon, surely you'd want the Belmont, not the Astra!

However, having driven a Belmont (the auto version at that), the only FIA qualification it has is Forever Internally Awful
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As to the internal dimensions we could also add the Alfa Bertone supposed to make room for 4 adults… Both with RX7 were Group1 homologated. In my list only one Porsche was ever homologated as a Group 1, the 912 (first series I think) but ok correct me if its wrong.
If a Jensen CV8 has been entered in an international meeting you could make a perfect copy and have it recognized. Right or wrong?
Vic Elford drove a Porsche 911 in the 1967 British Saloon Car Championship. According to the Snetterton programme, the championship was "For Special Touring Cars complying with Appendix 'J' Group 5 to the International Sporting Code."

There were also 911's competing in the ETCC in 1968, entered by the likes of Kremer.
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