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Old 30 Apr 2018, 19:32 (Ref:3818478)   #801
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pretty sure the other drivers may want a piece of his royal highness ..
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Old 30 Apr 2018, 20:05 (Ref:3818491)   #802
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They won't have to do much for that though. Hopefully the second seat goes to somebody a bit faster, perhaps Niels Langeveld or one of the Bleekemolens? Or - considering Audi puts East in in Germany - even Frijns?
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Old 30 Apr 2018, 21:12 (Ref:3818509)   #803
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They won't have to do much for that though. Hopefully the second seat goes to somebody a bit faster, perhaps Niels Langeveld or one of the Bleekemolens? Or - considering Audi puts East in in Germany - even Frijns?
Michael Verhaegen will drive second Koeten Audi. He did some TCR Benelux events last year.

Disappointing guest drivers. With Frijns, Langeveld, Van Lagen there are better drivers available but it's probably money that makes the decision.
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Old 30 Apr 2018, 21:14 (Ref:3818511)   #804
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Money and marketing yeah. A Prince is good news for the organisation, and on top of it he's the owner of the circuit
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Old 30 Apr 2018, 21:24 (Ref:3818516)   #805
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Money and marketing yeah. A Prince is good news for the organisation, and on top of it he's the owner of the circuit
Owning a bar doesn't mean you have to drink yourself.
But OK you can't blame him he's taking part in the event.
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Old 30 Apr 2018, 23:07 (Ref:3818531)   #806
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Old 1 May 2018, 06:21 (Ref:3818592)   #807
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Frijns will be racing in Blancpain GT Series at Silverstone that weekend so I guess he was no option
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Old 1 May 2018, 13:06 (Ref:3818666)   #808
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Standings after Hungary:

1. ITA Gabriele Tarquini (Hyundai), 118 pts
2. FRA Yann Ehrlacher (Honda), 82
3. FRA Yvan Muller (Hyundai), 77
4. HUN Norbert Michelisz (Hyundai), 75
5. GBR Robert Huff (Volkswagen), 65
6. SWE Thed Björk (Hyundai), 57
7. FRA Jean-Karl Vernay (Audi), 49
8. ARG Esteban Guerrieri (Honda), 47
9. MOR Mehdi Bennani (Volkswagen), 40
10. HUN Dániel Nagy (Cupra), 36
11. GBR James Thompson (Honda), 19
12. BEL Benjamin Lessennes (Honda), 18
13. ESP Pepe Oriola (Cupra), 16
14. GBR Gordon Shedden (Audi), 12
15. FRA Aurélien Comte (Peugeot), 6
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Old 1 May 2018, 13:32 (Ref:3818678)   #809
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Standings after Hungary:

1. ITA Gabriele Tarquini (Hyundai), 118 pts
2. FRA Yann Ehrlacher (Honda), 82
3. FRA Yvan Muller (Hyundai), 77
4. HUN Norbert Michelisz (Hyundai), 75
5. GBR Robert Huff (Volkswagen), 65
6. SWE Thed Björk (Hyundai), 57
7. FRA Jean-Karl Vernay (Audi), 49
8. ARG Esteban Guerrieri (Honda), 47
9. MOR Mehdi Bennani (Volkswagen), 40
10. HUN Dániel Nagy (Hyundai), 36
11. GBR James Thompson (Honda), 19
12. BEL Benjamin Lessennes (Honda), 18
13. ESP Pepe Oriola (Cupra), 16
14. GBR Gordon Shedden (Audi), 12
15. FRA Aurélien Comte (Peugeot), 6
Highlighting the fact a wildcard who missed a round is ahead of drivers whose stats boast 7 BTCC titles, 3 ETCC titles, 3 Italian touring car titles, 2 Superstars series titles, 16 TCR International wins, 18 other TCR race wins, 12 WTCC wins, a TCR Benelux title, a TCR Europe title and an ex-F1 driver.

Other than that the bop is fine.
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Old 1 May 2018, 14:01 (Ref:3818684)   #810
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Highlighting the fact a wildcard who missed a round is ahead of drivers whose stats boast 7 BTCC titles, 3 ETCC titles, 3 Italian touring car titles, 2 Superstars series titles, 16 TCR International wins, 18 other TCR race wins, 12 WTCC wins, a TCR Benelux title, a TCR Europe title and an ex-F1 driver.

Other than that the bop is fine.
Great result for Nagy, but we have to consider that it was the home track and he race with the best TCR car
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Old 1 May 2018, 14:39 (Ref:3818687)   #811
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Great result for Nagy, but we have to consider that it was the home track and he race with the best TCR car
Best BOP car**
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Old 1 May 2018, 20:00 (Ref:3818722)   #812
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Michael Verhaegen will drive second Koeten Audi. He did some TCR Benelux events last year.

Disappointing guest drivers. With Frijns, Langeveld, Van Lagen there are better drivers available but it's probably money that makes the decision.
How about Nicky Catsburg? That would be a great addtion as well
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Old 1 May 2018, 20:02 (Ref:3818723)   #813
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How about Nicky Catsburg? That would be a great addtion as well
He's on BMW's payroll this year, I don't think they'll let him run other manufacturers?
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Old 1 May 2018, 20:03 (Ref:3818724)   #814
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Oh, didn't read read the second sentence.

Shame. Who is he?
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Old 1 May 2018, 21:52 (Ref:3818736)   #815
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Hyundai has to be applauded for spending money to have four really top line drivers. I don’t know if their car is blessed with favorable BoP but they certainly paid handsomely to maximize its potential. Food for thought for the others, especially Honda.
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Old 2 May 2018, 05:09 (Ref:3818796)   #816
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Best BOP car**
But probably the best car out there as well... Even if there would be no BOP.
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He's on BMW's payroll this year, I don't think they'll let him run other manufacturers?
He was on the BMW Payroll the last 2 years But in this year he want to concentrate on GT-Cars.
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Hyundai has to be applauded for spending money to have four really top line drivers.
I wouldn't be so sure that Hyundai is spending any money towards Muller and Bjork.
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Best BOP car**
And as Daniel Nagy was a wildcard driver, his car carried 15kg extra as well.

About the BoP. The Hyundai and Honda are to strong, with the Hyundai a bit better than the Honda, but not that much, espcially seeing the Honda being much stronger at the Hungaroring than at Marrakech. Just thinking what the hell is wrong with Tom Coronel his car. There seems no speed in it all, though he was in the Chevy WTCC car also slower than Esteban Guerrieri when they had the same car.

Huff and Vernay really seems the best of the rest in the VW and AUDI.

If the VW Golf would be the benchmark than:
- The Hyundai and Honda need to be slowed down. With the Hyundai a little bit more slowed down than the Honda.
- The Audi need to get a little bit extra performance.
- The Peugeot, Cupra, Alfa all need some more speed.

TouringCarTimes had a nice graphic of the BOP for the first races
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And as Daniel Nagy was a wildcard driver, his car carried 15kg extra as well.
20kg....
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Old 2 May 2018, 17:13 (Ref:3818920)   #821
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Guys, Bop is in the DNA of TCR. Without Bop, TCR woukd be dead within 3 years. Without Bop, GT3 would have survived 3 years tops, but with bop it revived national and international gt championships all over the world. GTE would also be a joke without bop.

The old DTM (1986- 1992) had some sort of bop, Supertouring cars had waivers and Bop between front-, rear-, and all wheel drive...

Who dislikes bop in TCR doesnt know anything about the history and the inner workings of racing with production-related race cars as touringcars or gt's.
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Old 3 May 2018, 21:08 (Ref:3819257)   #822
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Old DTM had sort of BoP?
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Who dislikes bop in TCR doesnt know anything about the history and the inner workings of racing with production-related race cars as touringcars or gt's.
True.
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Yes. Air restrictor & base weight changes.
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BoP changed:

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2018...op-adjustment/
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