F3000 Sportscar

Edmonton · 12 Sep 2005, 00:42 (Ref:1405167)

I read in a older magazine that around 1993 when the FIA was still looking at having a worldsportscar championship that along with groupC and GT they were proposing a class of f3000 cars rebodied. Does anyone know anything about this proposal and what the cars would have been like?

**skycafe** · 12 Sep 2005, 00:55 (Ref:1405173)

I would think they would have looked like the Can Am II of 1977 on, which were predominatly F5000 cars rebodied.

fausto · 12 Sep 2005, 06:41 (Ref:1405285)

in Japan they used to race singleseater-based sportscars, for sure they did it using F.2, don't remember if they made it with Formula 3000, could be possible...

Russfeld · 12 Sep 2005, 07:00 (Ref:1405293)

The original Lola LMP car of the late 90s had a nose top very similar to the Lola F3000 car of the time

Nordic · 12 Sep 2005, 08:07 (Ref:1405342)

Have a look at some pictures of intersire cars form the early to mid 90's.
RacingSportsCars site has some.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo_interserie.html

Loads of old F1 CART and F3000 with faired in wheels.

cybersdorf · 12 Sep 2005, 11:25 (Ref:1405533)

Thank goodness it didn't happen.

**FIRE** · 12 Sep 2005, 16:23 (Ref:1405798)

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Originally Posted by cybersdorf

Thank goodness it didn't happen.

Indeed

Marcel ten Caat · 12 Sep 2005, 22:24 (Ref:1406176)

As far as I know that Interseries is still racing in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Germany and Austria.

johnh875 · 13 Sep 2005, 07:21 (Ref:1406370)

You could easily see those cars evolving into something very similar to today's protoypes though!

cybersdorf · 13 Sep 2005, 09:41 (Ref:1406502)

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Originally Posted by Stranger

As far as I know that Interseries is still racing in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Germany and Austria.

Not with such cars anymore. The single seaters run without camouflage these days, there wasn't much left of it toward the end anyway. An old Footwork or Minardi with tacked-on mudguards is not my idea of a sports prototype.

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Originally Posted by johnh875

You could easily see those cars evolving into something very similar to today's protoypes though!

No they usually take the exact opposite direction. Think of Gp.C at the end of the 3.5l formula.

Another case in point: Formula X with the "convertible" monoposto open wheeler/sports cars. Never caught on.

Pete Fenelon · 13 Sep 2005, 11:56 (Ref:1406602)

Last time I looked there still are some nice little "proper" prototypes in Interserie - there were still Group C cars turning up until about 2000, and in more recent years there were occasionally a few SR2/P675s in there; there's quite a few cars of the CN/VdeV/Britsports/"LMP3" sort of level around now. But it does all look a bit "run what you brung" these days, with some chassis seeming to date back to the 80s!

**FIRE** · 13 Sep 2005, 12:42 (Ref:1406649)

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Originally Posted by cybersdorf

Another case in point: Formula X with the "convertible" monoposto open wheeler/sports cars. Never caught on.

It's a shame the founder of A1GP didn't start an endurance series. So I propose:

Each country 1 car (Lola B05/40 with Zytek engine; A1GP is already using a Lola with Zytek engine)
Each car is shared by 2 drivers
Races of 90 minutes (at least 1 driver change)

Name of the series: A1ES - A1 Endurance Series

cybersdorf · 13 Sep 2005, 13:53 (Ref:1406687)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

It's a shame the founder of A1GP didn't start an endurance series. So I propose:

Each country 1 car (Lola B05/40 with Zytek engine; A1GP is already using a Lola with Zytek engine)
Each car is shared by 2 drivers
Races of 90 minutes (at least 1 driver change)

Name of the series: A1ES - A1 Endurance Series

Yes, please let's have another series! Or for a really revolutionary idea, why not just enter in the LMES.

marcush. · 13 Sep 2005, 14:04 (Ref:1406692)

lets pray LMES is here to stay .
looking at the grandstands at the ring reminded me of the last Group C race at the ring when i was almost alone as spectator....cannot understand.
Today this is really entertaining racing ,with lots of drama and racing for hours and nobody bothers.

TheNewBob · 13 Sep 2005, 14:05 (Ref:1406693)

A few more adverts might come in handy too though...

cybersdorf · 13 Sep 2005, 15:16 (Ref:1406722)

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Originally Posted by marcush.

lets pray LMES is here to stay .
looking at the grandstands at the ring reminded me of the last Group C race at the ring when i was almost alone as spectator....cannot understand.
Today this is really entertaining racing ,with lots of drama and racing for hours and nobody bothers.

Bad promotion = no spectators.

Nordic · 13 Sep 2005, 16:07 (Ref:1406759)

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Originally Posted by cybersdorf

Bad promotion = no spectators.

no spectators = no sponsors = no series

The new Audi and Peugeot teams cannot come soon enough for the health of the LMES. Hopefully this will bring some of the big name sponsors back. With Sony maybe defecting to a McLaren 'B' team they are badly needed.

Joe Taylor · 13 Sep 2005, 16:48 (Ref:1406782)

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Originally Posted by TheNewBob

A few more adverts might come in handy too though...

Don't you mean a few adverts full stop?

cybersdorf · 13 Sep 2005, 20:46 (Ref:1407041)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

no spectators = no sponsors = no series

You know that, and I know that, and everybody else around here knows that. Strangely, we seem to be the only ones who know that.

TheNewBob · 13 Sep 2005, 20:59 (Ref:1407048)

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Originally Posted by Joe Taylor

Don't you mean a few adverts full stop?

I stand corrected!

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