Team 2010 Lineup ?

Chaynes321 · 31 May 2009, 18:09 (Ref:2472808)

So whats the proposed 2010 Lineup then ?

Brawn
Red Bull
Ferrari
McLaren
Renault
Toyota
Force India
BMW
Toro Rosso
Williams

+ 3 From :

Litespeed GP
Prodrive F1 / Aston Martin
Campos Meta 1
Lola Cars
Team USF1
March Racing Organisation MRO)
Team Superfund

jab · 31 May 2009, 18:19 (Ref:2472811)

Well, providing all the existing teams stay (which they probably well), my guestimations

Brawn-Mercedes
1) Jenson Button
2) Rubens Barrichello?

Red Bull-Renault
3) Sebastian Vettel
4) Mark Webber

Toyota or private entry
5) Jarno Trulli/Kamui Kobayashi
6) Timo Glock/Kamui Kobayashi

McLaren-Mercedes
7) Lewis Hamilton
8) Heikki Kovalainen/Nico Rosberg/Timo Glock/Adrian Sutil

Renault or Briatore-Cosworth/Renault
9) Fernando Alonso?
10) Nelson Piquet Jr/Romain Grosjean

Sauber-BMW
11) Nick Heidfeld/Nico Rosberg
12) Robert Kubica/Nico Rosberg

Ferrari
14) Felipe Massa/Fernando Alonso
15) Kimi Raikkonen/Fernando Alonso

Williams-Toyota
16) Nico Rosberg/Nico Hulkenberg
17) Kazuki Nakajima/Nico Hulkenberg

Toro Rosso-Ferrari
18) Sebastien Buemi
19) Sebastien Bourdais/Brendon Hartley

Force India-Mercedes
20) Adrian Sutil/Vitantonio Liuzzi
21) Giancarlo Fisichella/Vitantonio Liuzzi

As for the new teams, who knows? Haven't heard anything about a March team, though - where did that come from?

Croc · 31 May 2009, 18:29 (Ref:2472817)

Here: March submits entry for 2010

Brawn-Mercedes
1) Jenson Button
2) Rubens Barrichello

Red Bull-Renault
3) Sebastian Vettel
4) Mark Webber

Toyota
5) Jarno Trulli
6) Timo Glock

McLaren-Mercedes
7) Lewis Hamilton
8) Heikki Kovalainen/Nico Rosberg

Renault
9) Fernando Alonso/?
10) Romain Grosjean

Sauber-BMW
11) No idea
12) Robert Kubica

Ferrari
14) Felipe Massa
15) Kimi Raikkonen/Fernando Alonso

Williams-Toyota/Cosworth
16) Nico Rosberg/Nico Hulkenberg
17) No idea

Toro Rosso-Ferrari
18) Sebastien Buemi
19) Nelson Piquet Jr./Brendon Hartley/Bruno Senna

Force India-Mercedes
20) Adrian Sutil
21) Vitantonio Liuzzi

As for the 3 new teams, i pick: Campos, Prodrive and USF1

jab · 31 May 2009, 18:40 (Ref:2472820)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Croc

Here: March submits entry for 2010

Ha. Trying to tempt Max by entering as his team. I like it. But I'll eat a lot of hats if they get in

Marbot · 31 May 2009, 19:32 (Ref:2472864)

I think that it's a bit early for this.

duke_toaster · 31 May 2009, 20:02 (Ref:2472887)

Of the new teams, I would suggest that Lola, Prodrive and USF1 would be the better options. Campos don't have the hardware to start building tubs, and the others are total upstarts.

Vettel in a Williams · 31 May 2009, 20:14 (Ref:2472901)

I sincerely hope that Williams sign a more experienced driver to partner Rosberg (assuming he stays)

I'm tired of watching Kazuki Nakajima driving his car into a wall.

I'm not familiar with Hulkenberg but his inexperience is worrying factor. (Hopefully somebody here can allay my fears and convinve me that he will be good for Williams)

As for the rest as long as Vettel stays in a competitive car then I'm not too fussed. but I'll hazard a guess based on my own opinions and popular opinion around the internets.

Brawn-Mercedes
1) Jenson Button
2) Rubens Barrichello/Bruno Senna/Anthony Davidson

Red Bull-Renault
3) Sebastian Vettel
4) Mark Webber/Sebastien Buemi

Toyota
5) Jarno Trulli/Kamui Kobayashi
6) Timo Glock/Kamui Kobayashi

McLaren-Mercedes
7) Lewis Hamilton
8) Heikki Kovalainen/Mark Webber

Renault
9) Fernando Alonso/Anthony Davidson
10) Nelson Piquet Jr./Romain Grosjean

Sauber-BMW
11) Robert Kubica/Nico Rosberg
12) Nick Heidfeld/Nico Rosberg/Christain Klien

Ferrari
14) Felipe Massa
15) Kimi Raikkonen/Fernando Alonso

Williams-Toyota/Cosworth
16) Nico Rosberg/Nico Hulkenberg
17) Kazuki Nakajima/Nico Hulkenberg

Toro Rosso-Ferrari
18) Sebastien Buemi/Brendon Hartley
19) Sebastien Bourdais/Brendon Hartley

Force India-Mercedes
20) Nelson Piquet Jr./Adrian Sutil
21) Adrian Sutil/Vitantonio Liuzzi/Paul di Resta

jab · 31 May 2009, 20:17 (Ref:2472905)

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Of the new teams, I would suggest that Lola, Prodrive and USF1 would be the better options. Campos don't have the hardware to start building tubs, and the others are total upstarts.

Campos are working with Dallara, who definitely have the hardware to start building tubs. USF1 don't but I'm pretty sure Max won't turn them down because of who they are (which is a shame because there are better entries)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vettel in a Williams

I'm not familiar with Hulkenberg but his inexperience is worrying factor. (Hopefully somebody here can allay my fears and convinve me that he will be good for Williams)

He is very good, far far better than Nakajima. Dominated A1 at his first attempt and then went on to win the F3 Euroseries pretty easily at his second attempt. He's now in GP2 with ART

HughGJohnson · 31 May 2009, 21:29 (Ref:2472943)

Drivers new to F1 or changing teams in 2010:

Grosjean replaces Piquet at Renault (suprised people think he'll keep his seat)

Senna for Bordais at Torro Rosso (I like Bordais, but I think he's done in F1)

Alonso for Trulli at Toyota (Alonso wants out now, Ferrari has their drivers and Kobayashi is a backmarker in GP2)

Nico Rosberg to McLaren for Kovalainen (I really liked Kovalainen as a rookie and I still think he can drive in F1. But, it isn't working at McLaren.)

Kovalainen to Braun GP for Barrichello (They need a 2 and Rubens thinks he's a 1, plus he's just old.)

Hulkenburg to Williams for Nakajima (Nakajima's best friend is Piquet only because he sucks more)

Karon Chandok to Force India for Fisichella (It may not happen if he doesn't start performing better, but I thought he was pretty good last year in GP2.)

USGP: Graham Rahal
Marco Andretti

Other 4 seats for 2 new teams: Trulli, Barrichello, Luca Di Grassi and Vitali Petrov

I think Kubica may be anxious to get out of BMW, but I'm not sure where he'd go. There would seem to be room at Williams and they may be competitive, but I don't think they can pay him.

duke_toaster · 31 May 2009, 21:36 (Ref:2472944)

My guesses are

Brawn-Mercedes : Jenson Button, Bruno Senna
RBR-Renault : Sebastian Vettel, Mark Webber OR Sebastien Buemi
Toyota or Howett: Two of Jarno Trulli, Timo Glock, Kamui Kobayashi
McLaren-Mercedes : Lewis Hamilton, Heikki Kovalainen
Renault or Briatore : Fernando Alonso, Roman Grosjean
BMW or Theissen : Robert Kubica, Nick Heidfeld
Ferrari : Felipe Massa, Kimi Raikkonen
Williams : Two of Rosberg, Hulkenberg, Nakajima or Kobayashi if he doesn't get in to Toyota
Toro Rosso : Bourdais, Hartley
Force India : Sutil and one of Liuzzi, Paffett, De La Rosa

---

USGPE-Cosworth : Marco Andretti and one of Danica Patrick, Ryan Hunter-Ray, Alexander Rossi - Danica scoring more hits than the Spice Girls, Rossi plodding around at the back and RHR not doing so bad in a dog of a car.
Prodrive/Aston Martin-Cosworth : No idea, but Tomas Enge is a genuine possible. Dark horses include Darren Turner and Jan Charouz.
Lola-??? : Takuma Sato's name always gets mentioned. Maybe he could give it a go, but he could go anywhere.

CarolK · 31 May 2009, 21:47 (Ref:2472953)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab

Campos are working with Dallara, who definitely have the hardware to start building tubs. USF1 don't but I'm pretty sure Max won't turn them down because of who they are (which is a shame because there are better entries)

I'm in agreeement with you about USF1 now known as USGPE (a required change per Bernie), there are better entries in the mix. I did some website checking last Friday - USGPE has NO website - only a page saying coming soon; Prodrive is very professional as always and their submission was already on their website; Campos has their racing on theirs; Lola very nice site with their intent also on it. I would think if you were a serious entry, you'd be in a promotion mode. I think the US team is a "given" - it gets "old" on Speed TV with Varsha and Windsor talking about the team and they make it as though the FIA has already approved them. All I know about the car is that a NASCAR team is suppose to be designing it...a "COT"?? As far as the post with US drivers listing Graham Rahal - yes, that would definitely be my first choice but Marco Andretti (that would be a name only entry) - he crashes out in about every event he runs - witness A1GP, Indy 500, IRL....AJ Allemindger (sp) is better or Colin Braun who was terrific in sportscars now in the truck series, don't assume an open wheel driver as there's plenty in NASCAR. Patrick would be a political ploy and a hard up choice with so many better drivers out there that would better represent the US - think there was talk about NASCAR for her. The first time she was in a first turn incident as they occur at many races, she'd be whinning, or stomping down pit lane to confront the driver. My choices for the three teams are: 1. Prodrive 2. Lola 3. Campos

I also question USGPE's intent to advertise the team as "Made in America", I find that amusing and untrue if going with the Cosworth engines from the UK. Definitely not truth in advertising.

Carol

**Bononi** · 31 May 2009, 23:12 (Ref:2472991)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marbot

I think that it's a bit early for this.

Or too late depending on the side...

Actually I think this thread should be merged with "F1 dreams"...

HughGJohnson · 31 May 2009, 23:39 (Ref:2473007)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarolK

I also question USGPE's intent to advertise the team as "Made in America", I find that amusing and untrue if going with the Cosworth engines from the UK. Definitely not truth in advertising.

Carol

...and what's more American than BS advertising?

RaiseYourFist · 1 Jun 2009, 01:07 (Ref:2473046)

these are my guesses and also how they will finish in the WCC this year:

1Brawn
Button
A. Davidson

2Red Bull
Vettel
Webber

3Ferrari
raikkonen
Alonso

4BMW
Kubica
Heidfeld

5Mclaren
Hamilton
Rosberg

6Toyota
Glock
Trulli

7Renault
Massa
Grosjean

8Torro Rosso
Brendon Hartley
Buemi

9Williams
Kovalainen
Hulkenberg

10Force India
Sutil
Liuzzi

11Prodrive
Enge
Di Resta

12USGPE
Graham Rahal
Danica Patrick

13Lola
B. Senna
J. Villenueve

Naruto · 1 Jun 2009, 02:19 (Ref:2473065)

Brawn-Mercedes
1) Jenson Button
2) Rubens Barrichello

Red Bull-Renault
3) Sebastian Vettel - confirmed *
4) Mark Webber

Toyota
5) Jarno Trulli
6) Timo Glock

McLaren-Mercedes
7) Lewis Hamilton - confirmed*
8) Nick Heidfeld

Renault
9) Fernando Alonso - confirmed*
10) Romain Grosjean - I think will be in the car in 09

Sauber-BMW
11) Brendon Hartley
12) Robert Kubica

Ferrari
14) Felipe Massa - confirmed *
15) Kimi Raikkonen - confirmed*

Williams-Toyota
16) Nico Rosberg
17) Kazuki Nakajima

Toro Rosso-Ferrari
18) Bruno Senna
19) Sebastien Bourdais

Force India-Mercedes
20) Adrian Sutil
21) Giancarlo Fisichella

Prodrive
22) Pastor Maldonado
23) Kamui Kobayashi

USGPE
24) Graham Rahal
25) Kyle Bush

Lola
26) Sebastien Buemi
27) Vitantonio Liuzzi

**gomick** · 1 Jun 2009, 05:23 (Ref:2473126)

Kyle Busch for the USGP Team

- would be something. How would an outspoken American go in Europe?
He would definitely get F1in the news...

climb · 1 Jun 2009, 11:20 (Ref:2473280)

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke_toaster

Of the new teams, I would suggest that Lola, Prodrive and USF1 would be the better options. Campos don't have the hardware to start building tubs, and the others are total upstarts.

Lola need someone to finance them; Campos are rumoured to team with Dallara, who supposedly have all that stuff

#FFF# · 1 Jun 2009, 11:47 (Ref:2473298)

Brawn-Mercedes
1 - Button
2 - Barrichello

Red Bull-Ferrari
3 - Vettel
4 - Webber

Ferrari
5 - Alonso
6 - Massa

Toyota
7 - Trulli
8 - Glock

McLaren-Mercedes
9 - Hamilton
10 - Rosberg

Renault
11 - Kovalainen
12 - Grosjean

BMW Sauber
14 - Kubica
15 - Klien

Williams-Toyota
16 - Heidfeld
17 - Hülkenberg

Toro Rosso-Ferrari
18 - Buemi
19 - Hartley

Force India-Mercedes
20 - Fisichella
21 - Liuzzi

USF1-Cosworth
22 - Speed
23 - Villeneuve

Prodrive-Aston Martin
24 - Sato
25 - Senna

Lola-Cosworth
26 - Davidson
27 - Pantano

jab · 1 Jun 2009, 12:16 (Ref:2473315)

Updated

Ferrari
0) Felipe Massa/Fernando Alonso
2) Kimi Raikkonen/Fernando Alonso

Williams-Toyota/Cosworth
3) Nico Rosberg/Nico Hulkenberg
4) Kazuki Nakajima/Nico Hulkenberg

Croc · 1 Jun 2009, 16:24 (Ref:2473493)

Quote:

Originally Posted by climb

Lola need someone to finance them;

May i suggest Master Card?

Marbot · 1 Jun 2009, 16:39 (Ref:2473502)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jab

Updated

Ferrari
0) Felipe Massa/Fernando Alonso
2) Kimi Raikkonen/Fernando Alonso

Williams-Toyota/Cosworth
3) Nico Rosberg/Nico Hulkenberg
4) Kazuki Nakajima/Nico Hulkenberg

Update update

Litespeed
5) Jarno Trulli/Timo Glock

More to follow.

Gingers4Justice · 1 Jun 2009, 19:26 (Ref:2473596)

Motorsport seems to attract funding from unhealthy products - tobacco, alcohol and energy drinks put far more into the sport than anything else.

So then. Funding from something damaging to health. Ideas?

Marbot · 1 Jun 2009, 19:41 (Ref:2473606)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

So then. Funding from something damaging to health. Ideas?

MacDonalds,KFC,Pizza-hut etc.I can feel my arteries choking up just thinking about them!

awrb · 1 Jun 2009, 22:22 (Ref:2473699)

Well, Mastercard funded Lola before and all this credit and everything has destroyed the health of the economy. But since no credit company has any money now, just loads of repossessed houses from people who were in debt, I can't really see it!

jab · 1 Jun 2009, 22:24 (Ref:2473702)

RBS...oh wait

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